[at-l] at-l Digest, Vol 42, Issue 11
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Wed Apr 11 17:59:20 CDT 2007
Gutsy and I stopped in at Neel's Gap on April 2, and just about 505 hikers had signed the register. We hiked from Springer to Unicoi Gap.
Dab
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Today's Topics:
1. New re Deer Ticks and Lyme Disease . . . . (Pete Randrup)
2. A bit OT, but then again, not really! (Clark Wright)
3. Very Low Number of Thru-hikers This Year (Karen Somers)
4. Re: Very Low Number of Thru-hikers This Year (Felix J)
5. Re: [WomenHikers] Trail Days Tin Man & Dawg Friday NightHiker
BBQ (Cutter)
6. Re: Very Low Number of Thru-hikers This Year (Dennis Gass)
7. More web hikes (Navigator)
8. Re: More web hikes (Walt Daniels)
9. Re: More web hikes (atrailhiker at adelphia.net)
10. Katahdin Now (Bob C)
11. Re: Very Low Number of Thru-hikers This Year (Sloetoe)
12. Re: Very Low Number of Thru-hikers This Year (Felix J)
13. Re: Very Low Number of Thru-hikers This Year (Amy Skowronek)
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2007 16:46:13 -0400
From: Pete Randrup <hardhead at 1956.usna.com>
Subject: [at-l] New re Deer Ticks and Lyme Disease . . . .
To: Appalachian Trail list 'AT-L <at-l at backcountry.net>
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Old, bad Deer Tick, the Feds are after you!
DewDrop
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2007 17:26:50 -0400
From: "Clark Wright" <icw at wardanddavis.com>
Subject: [at-l] A bit OT, but then again, not really!
To: "AT-Listserve" <at-l at backcountry.net>
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I don?t want to start a major rehashing on AT-L of various opinions on who
has, or has not caused global warming, but I do want to share with you a
great letter to the editor that recently appeared in a major Raleigh, NC
newspaper. The author presents some very constructive food for thought and
suggests the kind of potential action that makes sense wherever one comes
down in terms of the so-called global warming debate. In one way or the
other, this issue will affect us all ? including the long term management of
the AT!
Thru-Thinker
[Clark Wright]
Douglas Crawford-Brown
CHAPEL HILL - The past several months have seen unprecedented movement
toward local, state and national action on climate change. A week ago the
U.S. Supreme Court ruled that carbon dioxide emissions should be covered
under the Clean Air Act, paving the way for regulatory strategies by the
EPA.
These actions will profoundly affect the ways in which we live our lives --
but they are changes we should embrace because they will pass quickly from
being voluntary to being one's ante into citizenship.
It is clear that the path will not be paved with old-style environmental
action. It will not be paved with pointing fingers at industry, business and
utilities and calling for them, and only them, to change. They have their
roles to play as members of our community, but they play those roles on a
stage set by the market demands we all make in using energy in our lives.
And the path will not be paved through scolding each other for the problems.
We all arrived at this condition as a community while making decisions to
fill legitimate humans needs. The task in front of us is to work as a
community to meet those needs in ways that produce less carbon dioxide and
other greenhouse gases.
HOW CAN SUCH COMMUNITY-WIDE CHANGES BE MADE? The specific measures we take
-- free buses, energy-efficient buildings, increasing density in the inner
city -- are to be worked out over many years of planning.
Those of us on the state's Legislative Commission on Global Climate Change
sent our first set of recommendations forward to require changes in how
buildings are constructed and energy is used in North Carolina.
As it spreads over the next several years, our core message will not waver:
work together in your communities and celebrate success when you see it.
Our local Chapel Hill Restaurant Group (owners of Spanky's, Squids and more)
has committed to build its new Durham location as one of the first LEED-
(Leadership in Energy and Environmental Design) certified restaurants in the
country. This must be rewarded through the market, by a community that
thanks the owners by choosing to eat there.
The Greenbridge development will be coming to downtown Chapel Hill, with
state-of-the-art energy systems to reduce energy use and carbon dioxide
emissions. Roger Perry and partners have designed their University Inn site
along N.C. 54 in Chapel Hill to serve as a shining example of sustainable
communities. These innovative developers must be rewarded through community
members choosing to live in those houses and frequent those businesses.
Utilities will be drawn into the mix, moving toward changes in the fuels
they use and the number of power plants they construct. When they make these
changes, the rest of our community must be prepared to meet them halfway,
accepting perhaps higher energy prices and working in homes and businesses
to reduce peak energy load.
MUNICIPAL GOVERNMENTS WILL MAKE TOUGH CHOICES as to where development can
and cannot occur if travel distances, and hence emissions from cars, are to
be minimized. Again the response of the community must be to embrace these
changes as ways to continue meeting human needs while transforming the face
of energy use.
And on April 12, the launch of the new UNC Institute for the Environment on
the Chapel Hill campus will coincide with the formal start of the
Institute's Community Carbon Reduction program. Through the program, the
town of Chapel Hill and the campus have joined forces to reduce carbon
dioxide emissions by 60 percent.
The Community Carbon Reduction program is set to spread throughout Chapel
Hill, and then into Carrboro, through innovative partnerships between the
Institute, Carolina students, the utilities, municipal government and
environmental organizations. We would love to see it wend its way into the
lives of every community in North Carolina.
If you would like to learn from the experience in Chapel Hill, call on us at
the Institute. We have only two requirements: that you approach us as a
community with all sectors ready to play their parts, and that you come
ready to point fingers, not at each other as causes of the problem, but
toward those members of your community you want to celebrate because they
stepped forward first with creative solutions and will show us all the path.
(Douglas Crawford-Brown is director of the UNC Institute for the
Environment.)
[---------------end article-------------------------]
I. Clark Wright, Jr.
Ward and Davis, LLP
409 Pollock Street
New Bern, NC 28560
252-633-1101
252-633-9400 (fax)
252-229-5900 (cell)
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2007 14:31:40 -0700 (PDT)
From: Karen Somers <kborski at yahoo.com>
Subject: [at-l] Very Low Number of Thru-hikers This Year
To: at-l at backcountry.net
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At Springer last weekend, the ridge runner claimed
that only about 400 - 500 thru-hikers started nobo
this year. The registers seem to back that number up.
Anyone have any other news regarding this low number?
It's hard to believe, but the ridge runner is there
every day recording hikers, and though people do start
in April, I would expect that the majority of nobos
have already started by now.
If true, it means the AT and PCT will have nearly the
same number of hikers this year.....
Nocona
AT '98
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2007 19:43:05 -0400
From: Felix J <athiker at smithville.net>
Subject: Re: [at-l] Very Low Number of Thru-hikers This Year
Cc: at-l at backcountry.net
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Karen Somers wrote:
>At Springer last weekend, the ridge runner claimed
>that only about 400 - 500 thru-hikers started nobo
>this year. The registers seem to back that number up.
>
>It's hard to believe, but the ridge runner is there
>every day recording hikers,
>
If he's there everyday, why is there such a wide gap in his numbers?
25% margin of error seems high. Not that I think he's wrong, or anything.
--
Felix J. McGillicuddy
ME-->GA '98
"Your Move"
ALT '03 KT '03
http://Felixhikes.tripod.com/
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2007 21:48:47 -0400
From: Cutter <cutter78 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [at-l] [WomenHikers] Trail Days Tin Man & Dawg Friday
NightHiker BBQ
To: Gadog430 <gadog430 at charter.net>
Cc: Hot Dog <TrailR at aol.com>, WomenHikers at yahoogroups.com, The List
<at-l at backcountry.net>, Miss Janet <themissjanet at gmail.com>
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You sure are giving me a good reason to not go to Trail Days.
--
Cutter
http://cutter.wordpress.com
On 4/9/07, Gadog430 <gadog430 at charter.net> wrote:
>
> Tin Man's will have pasties on it. That much I can guarantee.
> They may be shaped like an AT symbol, but they'll be on there.
>
> Dawg
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Linda Benschop" <athummingbird at dnet.net>
> To: <WomenHikers at yahoogroups.com>
> Cc: "Hot Dog" <TrailR at aol.com>; "Miss Janet" <themissjanet at gmail.com>;
> "The
> List" <at-l at backcountry.net>; "George Andrews" <gwa at ec.rr.com>
> Sent: Monday, April 09, 2007 11:15 AM
> Subject: Re: [at-l] [WomenHikers] Trail Days Tin Man & Dawg Friday
> NightHiker BBQ
>
>
> > Dawg,
> >
> > I was thinking about you when I went to Big Lots here the other day. I
> > don't know if all Big Lots have the same items but this one was full of
> > Hawaiian things......lots of coconut bras, hula skirts and decorations.
> > Just thought you might like to know. Some of those bras were pretty
> > skimpy and tied in the back. Would have to tie them very carefully and
> > tightly with some of THESE guys around.. Some were bigger and didn't
> > show quite as much. Others let it "all hang out".
> >
> > Hummingbird
>
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2007 22:23:00 -0400
From: "Dennis Gass" <gassd at bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: [at-l] Very Low Number of Thru-hikers This Year
To: "'Felix J'" <athiker at smithville.net>
Cc: at-l at backcountry.net
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He's there 10 days, then off 4. He takes Monday-Thursday off every other
week. On days he is there, he sits near the bronze plaque from 7am - 4pm.
I don't remember the dates he said he was there...seems like really late
February was when he started.
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Behalf Of Felix J
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 7:43 PM
Cc: at-l at backcountry.net
Subject: Re: [at-l] Very Low Number of Thru-hikers This Year
Karen Somers wrote:
>At Springer last weekend, the ridge runner claimed
>that only about 400 - 500 thru-hikers started nobo
>this year. The registers seem to back that number up.
>
>It's hard to believe, but the ridge runner is there
>every day recording hikers,
>
If he's there everyday, why is there such a wide gap in his numbers?
25% margin of error seems high. Not that I think he's wrong, or anything.
--
Felix J. McGillicuddy
ME-->GA '98
"Your Move"
ALT '03 KT '03
http://Felixhikes.tripod.com/
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2007 23:10:29 -0400
From: "Navigator" <ftcracker at aol.com>
Subject: [at-l] More web hikes
To: "'A.T. list'" <at-l at backcountry.net>
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And I just came across this a few days ago .... http://besthike.com and its
related http://besthike.com/blog/
Interesting reading and links!
Cheers, Navigator
www.floridahikes.com
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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2007 23:18:58 -0400
From: Walt Daniels <wdlists at optonline.net>
Subject: Re: [at-l] More web hikes
To: "'A.T. list'" <at-l at backcountry.net>
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Note that they link to the trailplace not ATC for a website.
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Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 11:10 PM
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Subject: [at-l] More web hikes
And I just came across this a few days ago .... http://besthike.com and its
related http://besthike.com/blog/
Interesting reading and links!
Cheers, Navigator
www.floridahikes.com
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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2007 2:16:56 -0700
From: <atrailhiker at adelphia.net>
Subject: Re: [at-l] More web hikes
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This is an EXCELLENT website! Thanks for posting.
Marsha
---- Navigator <ftcracker at aol.com> wrote:
> And I just came across this a few days ago .... http://besthike.com and its
> related http://besthike.com/blog/
>
> Interesting reading and links!
> Cheers, Navigator
> www.floridahikes.com
>
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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2007 09:27:53 -0400
From: "Bob C"<ellen at clinic.net>
Subject: [at-l] Katahdin Now
To: "Bob C" <ellen at clinic.net>, "Dust" <pctttdust at yahoo.com>,
at-l at backcountry.net
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http://www.katahdincam.com
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Message: 11
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2007 06:49:32 -0700 (PDT)
From: Sloetoe <sloetoe at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [at-l] Very Low Number of Thru-hikers This Year
To: Karen Somers <kborski at yahoo.com>, at-l at backcountry.net
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--- Karen Somers <kborski at yahoo.com> wrote:
> At Springer last weekend, the ridge runner claimed
> that only about 400 - 500 thru-hikers started nobo
> this year. The registers seem to back that number
> up.
> Anyone have any other news regarding this low
> number?
### "Nobody goes there anymore -- it's too crowded"???
justtryin'tobehelpfultoe
Spatior! Nitor! Nitor! Tempero!
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Message: 12
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2007 09:52:10 -0400
From: Felix J <athiker at smithville.net>
Subject: Re: [at-l] Very Low Number of Thru-hikers This Year
Cc: at-l at backcountry.net
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Sloetoe wrote:
>--- Karen Somers <kborski at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>>At Springer last weekend, the ridge runner claimed
>>that only about 400 - 500 thru-hikers started nobo
>>this year. The registers seem to back that number
>>up.
>>Anyone have any other news regarding this low
>>number?
>>
>>
>
>### "Nobody goes there anymore -- it's too crowded"???
>
>
>
yeah...and, the food's no good and the portions are too small.
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Message: 13
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2007 09:55:16 -0400
From: Amy Skowronek <amy at forinash.net>
Subject: Re: [at-l] Very Low Number of Thru-hikers This Year
To: At-list <AT-L at Backcountry.net>
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Well, dang. Now I want to go.
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