[at-l] Soviet Propaganda Flight 800 (WAY OT)

Sun Jan 7 23:22:15 CST 2007

There's plenty of evidence.  Several witnesses who saw a flare and then heard a boom (explosion); the fact that the debris was scattered over a much larger area than if it had crashed into the ground; and the unmarked plane that witnesses saw make a wide circle around the area 1 minute or so after the missle hit, then take off.

Also, the inherently rational explanation behind the decision to shoot it down.  The hijacked plane was flying off course and it was apparent that it was a terrorist plane.  The decision in Washington was either to (i) let the plane reach it's target, perhaps the White House, and do very great damage in a large city, or (ii) shoot it down over rural Pennsylvania and minimize the loss of human life.  It all adds up.

Jim Lynch <jplynch at crosslink.net> wrote: And your evidence that it was shot down is... ?

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Subject: Re: [at-l] Soviet Propaganda Flight 800 (WAY OT)

> What's just as disgusting is the cover-up story on the plane that was shot 
> down over Pennsylvania on 9/11/01.  The gov't knew it was a hijacked plane 
> and made a decision to shoot the plane down rather than let it go on it's 
> course to Washington.  Yet, they arrogantly covered it up and the cowardly 
> press doesn't challenge it.
>
> That's what really burns me.  Not so much that they shot it down, which 
> was a rational decision that makes sense, but that the media is too 
> spineless to put the lie in the spotlight.  Tell me the truth and we can 
> argue about whether it is right, but don't lie to me.
>
> RoksnRoots at aol.com wrote:
>
>      Sorry to post this to the list but they have gone too far. I won't do
> it again but have to post this or lose my self-respect.
>
>
>             CNN just did a 2 hour program showing how TWA Flight 800 
> crashed
> because of a center wing tank explosion. TWA 800 crashed because of an Al
> Qaeda suicide aircraft and two military missiles shot in an attempt to 
> shoot down
> the suicide aircraft. I'm disgusted that CNN just did what amounts to a
> Soviet state media propaganda campaign against the US people and 
> constitution.
> Shame.
>
>           I'll cut to the chase, after going out of their way to discredit
> several soft proponents of the shootdown theory, the baiting CNN 
> interviewer
> asked leading questions backing the official version. Never once did CNN 
> mention
> the ongoing lawsuit by MIT professor Graham Sephton against the FBI, or
> retired 747 captain and PhD in aviation engineering Ray Lhar against the 
> CIA. Nor
> was any mention given of the TWA800.com web site where credible retired 
> pilots
> and other professionals offered scientific evidence proving it was a
> shootdown/suicide aircraft. Jack Cashill's book 'First Strike' gives a 
> pretty good
> account (also never mentioned).
>
>
>            Sephton is suing FBI because several bodies from Flight 800
> contained bb pellets recovered by the Long Island coroner. He had them 
> tested and
> they proved to be made of metals that Boeing said it doesn't use in its
> aircraft. Those metals, however, are used in missile warheads. FBI 
> confiscated the
> pellets and recorded their composition in its official records of the 
> crash.
> Sephton was suing under the Freedom Of Information Act to get those 
> documents.
> After winning a ruling for the documents, Sephton was sent only the cover 
> page
> for the material and nothing else. FBI said it couldn't find the rest and 
> was
> sorry but it tried its best. A federal judge in Boston said FBI had acted 
> very
> poorly in this matter but had satisfied an attempt to comply with the Act. 
> He
> found in their favor. This was never mentioned in the CNN piece.
>
>         Ray Lahr has high science showing that a nose-less 747 cannot "fly
> on for another 30 seconds" simply because the aircraft would go into a 
> fatal
> and immediate center of gravity shift, stall, and roll and drop like a 
> rock. The
> feds have been stonewalling Lhar for many years now. Lhar is suing CIA for
> the data by which they determined this zoom climb fly-on. This is simple 
> airline
> crash investigation. There's no reason not to release simple data. CIA
> refuses. Not mentioned by CNN.
>
>        A National Guard pilot who witnessed the shootdown said after the
> missile impacted Flight 800 "dropped like a rock" (as did several other
> witnesses). He was also a Vietnam veteran and considered himself an expert 
> at
> recognizing ordnance explosions. He said the missile explosion was 
> definitely ordnance.
> This was not mentioned on the CNN program that called these experts
> "conspiracy theorists".
>
>          Mike Wire, an ironworker union member was fixing a highway bridge
> 20 miles from the explosion. He said Flight 800's explosion created a boom 
> that
> "shook the superstructure of the bridge" he was working on. This is 
> important
> because Mike Wire sought out the investigators to tell them what he
> experienced. He specifically said he saw the missile go up and impact 
> Flight 800 and
> then felt the shockwave. Wire probably didn't realize he was giving 
> critical
> information in simple form in his statement. You see a center tank fuel 
> explosion
> occurs at 300 feet per second. That is, aviation fuel explodes at 300 feet
> per second by physical rule. Such an explosion is too 'soft' to shake a 
> steel
> bridge at 20 miles. Ordnance, however, explodes at 2000 feet per second. A 
> 2000
> foot per second explosion will shake a steel bridge at 20 miles. When Wire 
> got
> a copy of his statement from the investigation record he found it had been
> changed. Nothing about this on CNN.
>
>      A radar tape caught a 2000 foot per second ejecta pattern from Flight
> 800. Impossible for a fuel explosion to cause.
>
>         The nose gear wheel well door was found blown inward by a severe
> force. An internal explosion would necessarily blast this outward.
>
>
>        A metal frame spar from the tail section was found in the nose
> wreckage. This is physically impossible for a blast occurring in the 
> ship's middle.
> And, also, drastically counters the official version of the nose dropping 
> away
> while the rest of the plane flew on.
>
>
>         Of the 270, or so, witnesses who saw a missile rise and impact
> Flight 800 a good percentage described a "zig-zag" motion of the red flare 
> before
> it shot straight for the 747. This is the classic description of a missile
> homing in on and acquiring its target. The feds excluded all these 
> witnesses
> saying "witness testimonies are unreliable". Yet nowhere did CIA attempt 
> to explain
> how a trail of burning fuel zig-zags.
>
>      And, oh yeah, if you saw the program the reason the "bogey" caught on
> the radar tape took 30 seconds to cross one sweep is because it was the 
> suicide
> aircraft and not a missile.
>
>          The constitution was a good idea.
>
>
>         www.TWA800.com
>
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