[at-l] at-l Digest, Vol 15, Issue 42
vincentw at bellsouth.net
vincentw at bellsouth.net
Fri Nov 21 13:54:09 CST 2008
Since you all are on the subject......I'm in the market for a winter jacket. I'm wanting to be able to deal with "real cold" but be as light weight as possible. What do you all recommend?
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> 1. Pit Zips--- (Leslie Booher)
> 2. Re: Pit Zips--- (Ken Bennett)
> 3. Re: Pit Zips--- (Amy Forinash)
> 4. Re: Pit Zips--- (Jim Bullard)
> 5. Re: Pit Zips--- (KGJ)
> 6. Re: Pit Zips--- (Tom McGinnis)
> 7. Re: Pit Zips--- (EHamilton)
> 8. Re: Pit Zips--- (Cutter)
> 9. How (Felix J)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 12:57:13 -0800
> From: Leslie Booher
> Subject: [at-l] Pit Zips---
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> I realized the other day that my winter jacket has pit zips. I know the theory
> behind them, but I can't imagine ever really using them. Do any of you actually
> unzip them to air out your pits? I can imagine using them on the trail on cold
> nights to stick a wash rag in for cleaning purposes, maybe, but not much else.
> My thought is that maybe they're a better idea than they are in reality.
> Comments? a'bear
>
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 16:01:32 -0500
> From: "Ken Bennett"
> Subject: Re: [at-l] Pit Zips---
> To: "Leslie Booher"
> Cc: at-l at backcountry.net
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> On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 3:57 PM, Leslie Booher wrote:
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> > I realized the other day that my winter jacket has pit zips. I know the
> > theory behind them, but I can't imagine ever really using them. Do any of
> > you actually unzip them to air out your pits?
>
>
>
> What sort of winter jacket? I open the pit zips in my rain shell all the
> time while hiking. I also have pit zips in a soft shell jacket, but I don't
> wear that hiking. I do occasionally unzip, though, when I'm working outside
> or some such.
>
> --Ken
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> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 16:05:40 -0500
> From: Amy Forinash
> Subject: Re: [at-l] Pit Zips---
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> On Nov 20, 2008, at 3:57 PM, Leslie Booher wrote:
>
> > I realized the other day that my winter jacket has pit zips. I know
> > the theory behind them, but I can't imagine ever really using them.
> > Do any of you actually unzip them to air out your pits? I can
> > imagine using them on the trail on cold nights to stick a wash rag
> > in for cleaning purposes, maybe, but not much else. My thought is
> > that maybe they're a better idea than they are in reality.
> > Comments? a'bear
>
> I *wish* my winter jacket had pit zips. As soon as I get active it's
> too warm.
>
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 16:09:05 -0500
> From: "Jim Bullard"
> Subject: Re: [at-l] Pit Zips---
> To: "Ken Bennett"
> Cc: at-l at backcountry.net
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> If I'm overheating that is the first thing that gets opened either hiking or
> snow shoveling. As a rule I don't get cold from breezes when I open the pit
> zips like I can from unzipping the front. It allows circulation/cooling but
> usually not chilling. There are of course, exceptions to every rule.
>
> Jim Bullard
> http://jims-ramblings.blogspot.com/
>
>
> 2008/11/20 Ken Bennett
>
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 3:57 PM, Leslie Booher wrote:
> >
> >> I realized the other day that my winter jacket has pit zips. I know the
> >> theory behind them, but I can't imagine ever really using them. Do any of
> >> you actually unzip them to air out your pits?
> >
> >
> >
> > What sort of winter jacket? I open the pit zips in my rain shell all the
> > time while hiking. I also have pit zips in a soft shell jacket, but I don't
> > wear that hiking. I do occasionally unzip, though, when I'm working outside
> > or some such.
> >
> > --Ken
> >
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> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 17:35:04 -0500
> From: "KGJ"
> Subject: Re: [at-l] Pit Zips---
> To: "Leslie Booher" ,
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> i use mine. they're great!
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Leslie Booher"
> To:
> Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 3:57 PM
> Subject: [at-l] Pit Zips---
>
>
> >I realized the other day that my winter jacket has pit zips. I know the
> >theory behind them, but I can't imagine ever really using them. Do any of
> >you actually unzip them to air out your pits? I can imagine using them on
> >the trail on cold nights to stick a wash rag in for cleaning purposes,
> >maybe, but not much else. My thought is that maybe they're a better idea
> >than they are in reality. Comments? a'bear
> http://mailman.backcountry.net/mailman/listinfo/at-l
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>
>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 16:24:48 -0800 (PST)
> From: Tom McGinnis
> Subject: Re: [at-l] Pit Zips---
> To: KGJ , at-l at backcountry.net
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> In 1979, I took 5 days "off" in Connecticut to attend a reunion, eat like a
> horse, buy, repackage, and send drop boxes, and to get my "storm" situation
> settled. My original GoreTex shell (which SUCKED) had been stolen in Waynesboro,
> and I'd come north from there with a baseball cap as my rain gear. (Not a hard
> trick, as many can attest, but not something you want to head into New England
> sporting, either.)
>
> I spent most of the miles all the way to Hanover in the most perfect GoreTex,
> pit-zipped parka shell EVER invented. I wore it sometimes from start of day to
> end, and it would adjust so perfectly, between the throat and the bottom zipping
> towards each other, and the pit zips truly VENTING my midriff -- I NEVER had to
> stop because I was sweating. I was identified by the Stratton Pond caretaker as
> a throughhiker because when, at 7:00am in the morning and me stopping to ask the
> time, through a tent wall he asked "You going to Maine?" huh was my reply.
> "Well, you're whistling in the pouring rain. Only throughhikers do that" came
> the reply. He hadn't even laid eyes on me. At that point, I truly knew I could
> make it to Maine.
>
> Yeah, pit zips rock. And I still have that shell. Use it regularly. Needs to be
> sealed. Almost froze me heading over Mt. Rogers overnight in sleet that one year
> at Trail Days..... 'member that one? Cold.
>
> Nutballtoe
>
> --- On Thu, 11/20/08, KGJ wrote:
>
> > i use mine. they're great!
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Leslie Booher"
> > >I realized the other day that my winter jacket has pit zips. I know the
> > >theory behind them, but I can't imagine ever really
> > using them. Do any of you actually unzip them to air out your pits?
>
>
> ------------------------------
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> Message: 7
> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 18:33:37 -0800 (PST)
> From: EHamilton
> Subject: Re: [at-l] Pit Zips---
> To: at-l at backcountry.net
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> Guess y'all have just talked me into taking my Marmot Precip rain/wind jacket
> with the pit zips, instead of the lightweight nylon jacket I have, or a $5
> plastic poncho, or a couple garbage bags (top and "skirt.")
>
>
> It's lost its water-shedding ability somehow, though, even though?I've hardly
> even worn it. I can get Granger's at the outfitter but... just wondering, would
> it ruin it to spray it with silicone spray? That worked really well on my nylon
> jacket (the one w/o pit zips.)
>
> And what Leslie said about using the zips for pit-washing in cold weather....
> genius!!!
>
> MacGyver
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Tom McGinnis sloetoe at yahoo.com
>
> I spent most of the miles all the way to Hanover in the most perfect GoreTex,
> pit-zipped parka shell EVER invented. I wore it sometimes from start of day to
> end, and it would adjust so perfectly, between the throat and the bottom zipping
> towards each other, and the pit zips truly VENTING my midriff -- I NEVER had to
> stop because I was sweating. I was identified by the Stratton Pond caretaker as
> a throughhiker because when, at 7:00am in the morning and me stopping to ask the
> time, through a tent wall he asked "You going to Maine?" huh was my reply.
> "Well, you're whistling in the pouring rain. Only throughhikers do that" came
> the reply. He hadn't even laid eyes on me. At that point, I truly knew I could
> make it to Maine.
>
> Yeah, pit zips rock. And I still have that shell. Use it regularly. Needs to be
> sealed. Almost froze me heading over Mt. Rogers overnight in sleet that one year
> at Trail Days..... 'member that one? Cold.
>
> Nutballtoe
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> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 22:02:28 -0500
> From: Cutter
> Subject: Re: [at-l] Pit Zips---
> To: EHamilton
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> If it's not shedding water it might just be dirty. If I remember right, it's
> okay to give the Precip a good but gentle washing with a mild liquid
> detergent and run it through the dryer.
> The Precip isn't Goretex, but it's close enough that I think you can treat
> it as such. Check the label for cleaning instructions. I gave my Precip to
> my son so I can't check.
>
> Most modern waterproof fabrics need to be clean to work best. And usually,
> the dryer helps to restore the waterprooofness.
> I'd be leery of a silicone spray. It will likely clog up the breathability
> of the fabric.
>
> 2008/11/20 EHamilton
>
> >
> > It's lost its water-shedding ability somehow, though, even though I've
> > hardly even worn it. I can get Granger's at the outfitter but... just
> > wondering, would it ruin it to spray it with silicone spray? That worked
> > really well on my nylon jacket (the one w/o pit zips.)
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Cutter
> http://cutter.wordpress.com
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> Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 07:30:33 -0500
> From: Felix J
> Subject: [at-l] How
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> How do we all feel about having missed Jim Boo'yard's birthday Tuesday?
> I don't feel none too good about it. I missed my uncle's the next day,
> too. For shame...
>
> --
> Felix J. McGillicuddy
> ME-->GA '98
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