[at-l] Curiosity, not politics

Sly hikertrash at gmail.com
Sun Jan 11 14:05:24 CST 2009


You'll have to refresh my memory because I didn't see it on the original 
post, what Bush decree are you speaking of?

Sly

rcli4 at comcast.net wrote:
> The Frank Looper thing was a joke because I need to have his mind on 
> something besides kissing me.  I am not a lawyer, but I can take you 
> to school on international environmental policy if you wish.  If the 
> election had of went differently it would have been in the realm of my 
> responsibility. To answer your question; if you recognize the 
> protectorate established after ww 2 the area covered in the Bush 
> decree was defined under the Helsinki Accords back in 1975, which most 
> pertinent nations signed, gave the US jurisdiction over the area.  I 
> can explain what gave the folks the authority to make these decisions 
> and other particulars if you wish, but in the language most folks 
> understand, it's ours because we said it is ours and folks either 
> agree or do not have the power or inclination to do anything about it.
>  
> Clyde
>  
>
>     -------------- Original message --------------
>     From: "Jim Bullard" <jim.bullard at gmail.com>
>     Clyde said:
>     >I won't let liberal propaganda go unoppossed but I can't argue
>     specifics on this list.  I told you to send responses off list to
>     Frank Looper.
>      
>     >Clyde
>      
>     >PS Jim, Think US protectorates, there lies your answers
>
>     My question wasn't for Frank. I know he is not a lawyer but I also
>     know there are some on the list. Nor was it a shot against either
>     political party. I know we hold some islands in a 'protectorate'
>     status. We took them during WWII and never gave them back to the
>     resident population. Whether or not that was right is irrelevant
>     to my question. I understand that we can make laws governing those
>     islands but the declaration of vast areas of ocean floor appears
>     to go well beyond those islands. According to the paper one of the
>     areas is in excess of 350,000 square miles. Does the rest of the
>     world recognize our right to govern the bottom of the ocean so far
>     from our land? With the melting of the polar ice cap there is a
>     battle shaping up over who has rights to the oil that may be under
>     there. The Russians planted a flag (very old school, think Cris
>     Columbus) but Canada is making a proximity claim. Who or what de
>     cides who rules the ocean floor many many miles from anyone's
>     land?  Inquiring minds want to know. One trait of the US that
>     grates on people in other countries is the tendency of our
>     government (run by either party) to assume and act on authority
>     over things others don't recognize as our prerogative. I'm
>     wondering if this is one of those situations.
>
>     Jim Bullard
>     http://jims-ramblings.blogspot.com/
>
>
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> [at-l] Curiosity, not politics
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> Date:
> Sun, 11 Jan 2009 17:59:27 +0000
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