[at-l] Favorite Cold Gear

Wed Oct 14 20:55:39 CDT 2009

Interesting.  Their warranty doesn't cover wear and tear, or so they say.  Sounds like you got a break.. 

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: trailr at aol.com 
  To: Amy Forinash ; at-l-bounces at backcountry.net ; at-l List 
  Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 6:29 PM
  Subject: Re: [at-l] Favorite Cold Gear

  I bought my precip at Campmor for @ 70.$ wore it for 10 - 15 years, sent it back to Marmot and got a new one free (delaminated). Love that lifetime guarantee.
  Hotdog

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  -----Original Message-----
  From: Amy Forinash <amy at forinash.net>
  Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 16:59:05 
  To: at-l List<at-l at backcountry.net>
  Subject: Re: [at-l] Favorite Cold Gear

  They're considerably less at Campmor.

  On Oct 14, 2009, at 4:36 PM, JPL wrote:

  > (the Precips are running $109 at REI now...)
  > ----- Original Message -----
  > From: JPL
  > To: Gary Buffington ; AT-L
  > Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 4:29 PM
  > Subject: Re: [at-l] Favorite Cold Gear
  >
  > ok, good, I was really thinking about Cold Gear for backpacking.   
  > You like the Precip even though the parka only lasts a couple of  
  > years.  Does anything else last longer?  I guess if you get two  
  > years worth of good wear its worth it at $60.
  > ----- Original Message -----
  > From: Gary Buffington
  > To: AT-L
  > Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 4:22 PM
  > Subject: [at-l] Favorite Cold Gear
  >
  > JPL asked what is my favorite Cold Gear.
  >
  > Mara and Blue Trail, from whom I've learned much, shared similar  
  > thoughts.
  >
  > My favorite Cold Gear in the East is Precip, both pants and parka.   
  > Like others have mentioned it is cheap enough (about $60) in the  
  > last year's model and for me (like someone else mentioned) it  
  > doesn't start leaking for a couple of years of pretty hard wear and  
  > it breaths a little.  I once called them to complain of leaking  
  > after two years (embarrassed to admit I did that!) and they gave me  
  > a hundred dollar discount on their Gore-Tex parka saying the Precip  
  > was never made for a thru-hiker wearing a pack and that Gore-Tex was  
  > tougher.  I fell for the scheme and sent them a couple of hundred  
  > and got the similar Gore-Tex model.  The Gore-Tex parka is too hot,  
  > too heavy, too stiff and too bulky.  Other than that it is great and  
  > gets some use around town in winter.  The Gore-Tex is top notch  
  > though out West like on Mt. Rainier where it is colder and less  
  > humid and thus breaths better, and it is tougher than Precip.
  >
  > For the AT I just buy a new Precip jacket every couple of years.  My  
  > old Precip pants have made it over eight years because I hardly ever  
  > wear them.  Below 50-55 degrees and raining I wear the parka, a rain  
  > hat, and Gore-Tex mittens and sweat a LOT but am warm.  Below 45  
  > degrees (rain or not) I wear the parka, hat, and mittens and sweat a  
  > LITTLE and am warm.  At that temperature I debate on the pants.   
  > Below 40 degrees with or without rain I wear the parka, fleece hat,  
  > parka hood, a fleece top, fleece finger gloves, and the mittens, and  
  > the rain pants and am warm and sweat a LITTLE.  I used to hate sweat  
  > and thus nearly freeze out there half undressed; now I like warm  
  > sweat (mine!) and put on the Cold Gear.
  >
  > Below 32 in the east I try not to be out, but have done 20 miles at  
  > that temperature using the full outfit adding fleece long johns.   
  > But the worst is 35-45 in the rain.
  >
  > Don't ever leave this stuff behind or you'll be dead one day sooner  
  > than you think.  If you slack pack, take the Cold Gear.  It is also  
  > your emergency tent and you probably can survive the night.  Don't  
  > let a sprained ankle cause your death with immobility without Cold  
  > Gear.
  >
  > Interestingly (to me at least) I carry the O2 Gear on my Trans-Am  
  > bike ride section rides for the following reasons that don't apply  
  > on the AT:  It is lighter, it packs smaller, I never use it, it is a  
  > bright yellow easy to see color, I don't ride (much) in the rain,  
  > and I have my crewman Cimarron the 87 Year old Hiker following me in  
  > his Volkswagen Eurovan with all kinds of hot food and drink!  He  
  > sticks closer than Sweet Pea did on the AT in 2000 and is a far  
  > better cook!
  >
  > Bear Bag 2000
  > Gary Buffington
  >
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