[at-l] at-l Digest, Vol 40, Issue 32

WILLIAM D VINCENT vincentw at bellsouth.net
Fri Dec 17 13:40:39 CST 2010


Just my luck...I'm planning a thru hike attempt beginning 3/15/2011, now I'm even more unsure I can make it! 

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Subject: at-l Digest, Vol 40, Issue 32
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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: 2011 Appalachian Trail will be 2181 miles, adds 1.9
      miles. (hopeful_2003 at comcast.net)
   2. Re: 2011 Appalachian Trail will be 2181 miles,    adds 1.9
      miles. (Kent Gardam)
   3. Re: 2011 Appalachian Trail will be 2181 miles,    adds 1.9
      miles. (Frank Looper)
   4. trail song (Ken Bennett)
   5. new and improved AT (hopeful_2003 at comcast.net)
   6. Re: trail song (Sly)
   7. Re: trail song (Richard Beamish)


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Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2010 18:00:21 +0000 (UTC)
From: hopeful_2003 at comcast.net
Subject: Re: [at-l] 2011 Appalachian Trail will be 2181 miles, adds
    1.9 miles.
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>2011 Appalachian Trail will be 2181 miles, adds 1.9 miles. 



If the weather cooperates, there will be a new relo between the Fontana Marina and the Hilton by next hiking season. Actually, the new relo will diverge off trail east about 100 yards from the marina parking lot. It will connect with the current trail right at the boundary of the Forest Service land and the TVA land which is about 100 yards trail south of the blue blaze. 



I've seen?no official guess-timate about how much will be added but I'm sure it wont be much, maybe a half mile tops. I walked the flag line and the new route will be beautiful. It keeps to the lake's edge (trail east) and follows a contour well about high pool level. All the PUDs will be removed by side-hilling. 



If the Hilton was a great spot before, I think it will be all the nicer now, especially if you arrive towards evening and get to see the mists rising off the water. There are resident loons on the lake now and in my view that adds all the more value to this shelter. TVA moved hot water shower up to the restrooms on the blue blaze. The Fontana Village is under different management from the group operating it back in 2003. When I went to get updates for the Companion, those folks were so nice. The on site manager expressed their desire to attract hikers. 



Some of the improvements that I notice over 2003 were at the little camp store. They now have repair items for gear, enough food selection to get a hiker through the Smokeys, all types of fuel including Coleman and alcohol by the ounce and the canisters for the propane stoves, no espite tabs, however. There is an arrangement with the post office to help hikers. The PO is closed on Saturdays, but an employee is on hand a few hours in the morning, 10-12, I think. They will answer a knock on the door to?disburse mail and packages (tell'um Hopeful sent you). 



Tell anybody you know who plans to hike next spring to bring warm stuff. We are having a colder than normal fall and if this continues the winter may be bitter like it was in 2010. We had snow in the valleys as far south as the Chattanooga area already. It wasn't much but this hasn't happened in decades. Honestly, I don't remember snow ever coming in early December in Harrison.?? Hopeful
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Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2010 10:19:58 -0800 (PST)
From: Kent Gardam <kent_gardam at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [at-l] 2011 Appalachian Trail will be 2181 miles,    adds
    1.9 miles.
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Oh, whew!? Glad to see that the 1.9 miles is not all at once and that instead you get a chance to rest up for the additional segments.? I was worried that I wouldn't be able to make that extra mileage.

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From: snodrog5 at gmail.com <snodrog5 at gmail.com>
Subject: [at-l] 2011 Appalachian Trail will be 2181 miles, adds 1.9 miles.
To: "AT-L" <AT-L at backcountry.net>
Date: Thursday, December 16, 2010, 12:14 PM


2011 Appalachian Trail will be 2181 miles, adds 1.9 miles.
"This year, increases were reported for Massachusetts?Connecticut (0.2 mile), New York?New Jersey (0.9 mile), central Virginia (0.1 mile), and Tennessee?North Carolina (0.9 mile), while the southwest Virginia mileage was reduced by 0.1 mile."

Dan Chazin is da man. Seriously, Da Man.

http://www.citizen-times.com/article/20101215/OUTDOORS/101215037

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Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2010 14:19:07 -0500
From: Frank Looper <nightwalker.at at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [at-l] 2011 Appalachian Trail will be 2181 miles,    adds
    1.9 miles.
To: hopeful_2003 at comcast.net
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On a side note, hiking in shallow crunchy snow is FUN!

It doesn't take a ton of clothes to get to zero. Light, medium and heavy
base on top. Light and medium on bottom. Precip or similar top and bottom.
Layered hats (wind and fleece). Neck gaiter. Ear wrap. Liner, wind and LOOSE
insulated gloves. Expedition weight socks. That's about it.

At 10 degrees, I don't even wear all of that. It's just practice.

Freezing rain at Bob Gap today. I hate that stuff. Bring back the snow!

NightSleeper
(What a frikkin' trip!)
On Dec 16, 2010 1:00 PM, <hopeful_2003 at comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>>2011 Appalachian Trail will be 2181 miles, adds 1.9 miles.
>
>
>
> If the weather cooperates, there will be a new relo between the Fontana
Marina and the Hilton by next hiking season. Actually, the new relo will
diverge off trail east about 100 yards from the marina parking lot. It will
connect with the current trail right at the boundary of the Forest Service
land and the TVA land which is about 100 yards trail south of the blue
blaze.
>
>
>
> I've seen no official guess-timate about how much will be added but I'm
sure it wont be much, maybe a half mile tops. I walked the flag line and the
new route will be beautiful. It keeps to the lake's edge (trail east) and
follows a contour well about high pool level. All the PUDs will be removed
by side-hilling.
>
>
>
> If the Hilton was a great spot before, I think it will be all the nicer
now, especially if you arrive towards evening and get to see the mists
rising off the water. There are resident loons on the lake now and in my
view that adds all the more value to this shelter. TVA moved hot water
shower up to the restrooms on the blue blaze. The Fontana Village is under
different management from the group operating it back in 2003. When I went
to get updates for the Companion, those folks were so nice. The on site
manager expressed their desire to attract hikers.
>
>
>
> Some of the improvements that I notice over 2003 were at the little camp
store. They now have repair items for gear, enough food selection to get a
hiker through the Smokeys, all types of fuel including Coleman and alcohol
by the ounce and the canisters for the propane stoves, no espite tabs,
however. There is an arrangement with the post office to help hikers. The PO
is closed on Saturdays, but an employee is on hand a few hours in the
morning, 10-12, I think. They will answer a knock on the door to disburse
mail and packages (tell'um Hopeful sent you).
>
>
>
> Tell anybody you know who plans to hike next spring to bring warm stuff.
We are having a colder than normal fall and if this continues the winter may
be bitter like it was in 2010. We had snow in the valleys as far south as
the Chattanooga area already. It wasn't much but this hasn't happened in
decades. Honestly, I don't remember snow ever coming in early December in
Harrison.   Hopeful
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Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2010 17:07:30 -0500
From: Ken Bennett <bennett.ken at gmail.com>
Subject: [at-l] trail song
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So I was sitting in this bar in Winston-Salem last night, for their
"songwriters evening," listening to local songwriters perform. We're there
to see a guy my wife works with, and he's doing a nice job, then suddenly
he's singing about the Appalachian Trail. Nearly spit my beer.

http://davelaboone.bandcamp.com/track/on-the-trail

--Ken
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Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2010 22:14:37 +0000 (UTC)
From: hopeful_2003 at comcast.net
Subject: [at-l] new and improved AT
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>Oh, whew!? Glad to see that the 1.9 miles is not all at once and that instead you get a chance to rest up for the >additional segments.? I was worried that I wouldn't be able to make that extra mileag 



Ugh, is that like the thruhiker who wanted the pizza cut into 6 pieces instead of 8 because he wasn't hungry enough to eat 8 slices??? Hopeful
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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2010 22:59:14 -0600
From: Sly <hikertrash at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [at-l] trail song
To: at-l at backcountry.net
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I "like" it.  LOL...



On 12/16/2010 4:07 PM, Ken Bennett wrote:
> So I was sitting in this bar in Winston-Salem last night, for their 
> "songwriters evening," listening to local songwriters perform. We're 
> there to see a guy my wife works with, and he's doing a nice job, then 
> suddenly he's singing about the Appalachian Trail. Nearly spit my beer.
>
> http://davelaboone.bandcamp.com/track/on-the-trail
>
> --Ken
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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2010 03:40:05 -0800 (PST)
From: Richard Beamish <dbeamish1943 at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [at-l] trail song
To: at-l at backcountry.net
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Enjoyed it. Thanks
?Richard Beamish 




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From: Ken Bennett <bennett.ken at gmail.com>
To: at-l <at-l at backcountry.net>
Sent: Thu, December 16, 2010 5:07:30 PM
Subject: [at-l] trail song

So I was sitting in this bar in Winston-Salem last night, for their "songwriters 
evening," listening to local songwriters perform. We're there to see a guy my 
wife works with, and he's doing a nice job, then suddenly he's singing about the 
Appalachian Trail. Nearly spit my beer.? 


http://davelaboone.bandcamp.com/track/on-the-trail

--Ken
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