[at-l] Sleeping Bag Ratings Question

Daniel Steil dsteil19 at gmail.com
Sat Jan 16 14:51:13 CST 2010

Only Marmot and REI sleeping bags use the European Norm (EN) temperature
rating system for their bags.  The EN system is more accurate because it
takes the average of three different temperature ratings ( I forget what all
three are but the lowest of the three is the survivable rating) and uses the
middle temperature to title the rating of the bag.  The rating they give the
bag is based on having one layer on with hat and gloves.  All other
companies give their ratings based on what temperature you could survive at,
not necessarily what you would be comfortable at.


On Sat, Jan 16, 2010 at 3:45 PM, David Addleton <dfaddleton at gmail.com>wrote:

> The proverbial divinity or devil "THEY" rate sleeping bags by degrees
> F or C or both, suggesting the bag is "comfortable" at the designated
> temperature. But THEY never say what, if anything, they were wearing
> when sleeping in the bag @ the designated temperature, how much
> aclimatizing to the weather THEY did before testing, or wheather THEY
> generally sleep hot or cold. If anyone knows any lynx to how THEY
> arrive at their ratings, please post them.
> NOTE: whether I sleep hot or cold depends on the recent weather I've
> experienced: IE, aclimatization: if I've experienced two weeks of
> "cold" weather, I become .aclimatized' and sleep .hot. under the
> covers I needed when it first got cold. (Cold for me is, at the
> beginning of winter, 30 something F; in springtime it's further down
> the scale, and depends on the winter temperatures I've experienced. I
> remember once when 18F felt warm.)
> Last nite I slept at Providence Canyon in Ga without a sleeping bag to
> test my cold weather "technicals" down to 30F. The feet were under
> silk liner + 2 medium weight smart wool sox. The feet whined a lot
> about the cold, I.E., my perception from the feet was "we're freezing
> down here" but intellectually I knew they we'rn't freezing. I told
> them to quit whining and slept fine. It's when you don't feel them AT
> ALL that you've got a major problem (I'm told).
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