[at-l] "White Gas"

nightwalker.at at gmail.com nightwalker.at at gmail.com
Sat Jan 23 07:40:41 CST 2010

Things that I'm learning from all of this
(1) I'm glad that I fiter fuel every time that I pour it in the bottle. I have filtered out chunks of unknown substances and liquid that appears to be some sort of oil. NOT naphtha, for sure. After 13 Winters, I have NEVER had a clog in a liquid fuel stove. I totally attribute that to filtering every ounce of every fuel that has went into my bottles. Or maybe I'm just lucky. :-)
(2) if I do a long hike in the winter away from the AT, I will leave the Simmerlite at home and bring the Whisperlite Internationale. It's heavier, but it only require a jet change to burn K1 kerosene. It does it pretty well, too.
(3) Gasoline vaguely works, but only in an emergency.
(4) some people will freak over anything. BPA in my fuel bottle doesn't bother me nearly as much as accidentally drinking the fuel would.

Am I missing anything else?

I have decided lately to start asking more questions. You're never too experienced to learn something new. You hardly ever learn without asking. And sometimes these threads get legs. :-)

One thing I figured out on my own. These bottles aren't made for alcohol. I had one develop a hole because of that. No idea why, but alcohol eats aluminum.


-----Original Message-----
From: RockDancer <rockdancer97 at comcast.net>
Sent: Saturday, January 23, 2010 7:53 AM
To:  <at-l at backcountry.net>
Subject: Re: [at-l] "White Gas"

Perhaps these details were covered in the links provided by Black Wolfe as well but I didn't see it mentioned:

1. Coleman, and similar brand fuels, are filtered/refined to a higher degree than what we put in cars. Therefore not as much residue.

2. The octane rating for "white gas" is about 65 (working here from memory) so heat content is lower than for regular gas (octane 87 to ??). Which is why regular gas is so much more dangerous to handle.

3. Coleman does degrade in the can, no doubt. The very nice outfitter in Daleville (or is it Troutdale?) filled my tank a few years back, it was a post-Gathering hike so I had cold weather. The first fire up clogged my stove and I had to pre-clean my nozzle every time I used the stove until I could rid myself of the bad fuel when I reached Pearisburg. 

4. The source of the contamination could well be the lining of the can & our fuel bottles. Providers of AL cans used for this purpose have a plastic coating on the inside, this is also true for Sigg AL bottles, viz. the recent BPA controversy.

This is from a CNN website last October, you can google much more info. http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1932826,00.html#ixzz0dRI90nQe"

"But many consumers are feeling deceived now that the company (Sigg) has been outed for failing to tell the public that its bottles were not BPA-free, at least not the ones that were manufactured before August 2008. The company had boasted that its proprietary plastic liner didn't leach BPA into liquid like other bottles did.

Arthur Gaudet
Lowell, MA
Rockdancer97 at comcast.net
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