So, I just threw away 3 Nalgene water bottles that I've had for......20? 25??... years. They hadn't been used for 13?...15? years. They had become so brittle that when I squeezed them they sort of shattered. -- Felix J. McGillicuddy ME-->GA '98 "Your Move" ALT '03 KT '03 http://Felixhikes.tripod.com/