[at-l] Prosecution decisions

WILLIAM D VINCENT vincentw at bellsouth.net
Thu Jan 27 09:14:55 CST 2011


I can understand both the defense and prosecuting attorneys reluctance to allow the primary witnesses to testify via video.  In my state (Tennessee) which can't be on the cutting edge, we are just instituting video arraingment and the issue of equipment compatibility and connecntion stability are major problems.  
 
Most states collect a victim compensation fee from all convictees and this is doled out by a committee on an as needed basis.  (I recently retired from the state department of corrections and 33years of crim. just. experience form the basis of my comments.
 
Having said all that and based on the little I know of this case, primarily that the victims did not even report the assualt but that it was revealed by discovery some video tape, I suspect the prosecutors decision was based on the quality of witnesses rather then other considerations.    

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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: (Damascus) Prosecutor declines to pursue charges
      (Leslie Booher)
   2. Damascus (David Severance)
   3. Re: (Damascus) Prosecutor declines to pursue charges (Mara Factor)
   4. No more free online Companion? (snodrog5 at gmail.com)
   5. Re: (Damascus) Prosecutor declines to pursue charges
      (dfaddleton at gmail.com)
   6. Re: 2011 Hiking Plans (Tim Rich)


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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 09:06:15 -0500
From: "Leslie Booher" <lbooher at charter.net>
Subject: Re: [at-l] (Damascus) Prosecutor declines to pursue charges
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The first time I went to Damascus for Trail Days, someone stole my pack.  There was a description of the guys, and the police chief said that he felt sure that he knew who that would be, but he didn't try to arrest anyone, and I can't remember why not.  Each day, I went to the dollar store and bought new underware.  <G>  I carried my belongings home in a laundry bag.  a'bear


Humankind (be both)
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Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 09:08:18 -0500
From: David Severance <drsevy at gmail.com>
Subject: [at-l] Damascus
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No constitutional right would be violated here by showing the video.  It's
the State vs the 3 defendants.  If the crime was animal abuse and caught on
a video do you think they would not be prosecuted ?

The prosecutor ought to make a deal with the guy who took the video and then
put him on the stand and introduce the video through his testimony. That's
all they'd need to convict these losers.

And  "Randy Ray Blevins"  now there's a name.
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Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 09:10:43 -0500
From: Mara Factor <mfactor at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [at-l] (Damascus) Prosecutor declines to pursue charges
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It takes a long time for governments and laws to catch up with the times.  I
wouldn't expect much video conferencing in courtrooms anytime soon.

What is also unfortunate is that while I can understand how missing a week
or two of school or work and dredging up an incident they would like put
behind them can seem like a big deal now, in 5, 10, or 20 years, they may
look back and realize how small a sacrifice that would have been to put
criminals behind bars and prevent them from accosting others.

Hopefully, all of the other charges will go forward.  Perhaps if the
criminals get at least some time in jail, that may give them pause before
hurting others when they get out.

Mara
Stitches, AT99

Visit my Travels and Trails web site at:
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On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 8:55 AM, Jim Bullard <jim.bullard at gmail.com> wrote:

> David, What I had in mind was a video link that would allow cross
> examination. If the victims were in a court in Iowa (or wherever) and they
> used a tele-conferencing type link I don't see why that wouldn't work. We
> are in the 21st century after all.
>
>
> Jim Bullard
> http://jims-ramblings.blogspot.com/
> http://members.photoportfolios.net/Jim_Bullard
> http://jim-bullard.zenfolio.com/
> http://picasaweb.google.com/jim.bullard
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>
> On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 8:47 AM, <dfaddleton at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Because we all have a constitutional right to confront and cross examine
>> witnesses who accuse us of crimes: video leaves too much outside the control
>> of the court -- what's going on outside the view of the camera? Victims need
>> financial and other assistance to appear ??
>> Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
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Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 09:20:22 -0500
From: "snodrog5 at gmail.com" <snodrog5 at gmail.com>
Subject: [at-l] No more free online Companion?
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http://www.whiteblaze.net/forum/showthread.php?t=68757

"We are currently reviewing our policy toward the online version of the
Companion, so as of Jan. 26 the files have been taken down from the site. We
will post news about the status of the online Companion as soon as the ALDHA
board reaches a decision."

First I heard about this was from a thread on Whiteblaze.

10+ years as a field editor, and not worth being in the loop...

TJ
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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 14:23:47 +0000
From: dfaddleton at gmail.com
Subject: Re: [at-l] (Damascus) Prosecutor declines to pursue charges
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Video is no substitute for looking a false accuser in the eye and cross examining them, face to face. We protect this right to limit the number of innocent people from getting falsely convicted.
Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T

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Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 08:55:57 
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Subject: Re: [at-l] (Damascus) Prosecutor declines to pursue charges

David, What I had in mind was a video link that would allow cross
examination. If the victims were in a court in Iowa (or wherever) and they
used a tele-conferencing type link I don't see why that wouldn't work. We
are in the 21st century after all.

Jim Bullard
http://jims-ramblings.blogspot.com/
http://members.photoportfolios.net/Jim_Bullard
http://jim-bullard.zenfolio.com/
http://picasaweb.google.com/jim.bullard


On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 8:47 AM, <dfaddleton at gmail.com> wrote:

> Because we all have a constitutional right to confront and cross examine
> witnesses who accuse us of crimes: video leaves too much outside the control
> of the court -- what's going on outside the view of the camera? Victims need
> financial and other assistance to appear ??
> Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim Bullard <jim.bullard at gmail.com>
> Sender: at-l-bounces at backcountry.net
> Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 08:37:18
> To: RockDancer<rockdancer97 at comcast.net>
> Cc: AT-L<at-l at backcountry.net>
> Subject: Re: [at-l] (Damascus) Prosecutor declines to pursue charges
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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 06:45:50 -0800 (PST)
From: Tim Rich <athiker89 at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [at-l] 2011 Hiking Plans
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I'll do some sectioning along the Pinhoti, perhaps with a BMT trip thrown in.? 

Take Care,

Tim

--- On Wed, 1/26/11, Tenacious Tanasi <tenacious_tanasi at yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Tenacious Tanasi <tenacious_tanasi at yahoo.com>
Subject: [at-l] 2011 Hiking Plans
To: "AT-L" <at-l at backcountry.net>
Date: Wednesday, January 26, 2011, 7:15 PM

The list has been frightfully quiet. ?Rucks? ?Cold weather snugglin? ?Facebook addictions? ?Just what is it keeping folks from posting off the AT-L?
So, I thought I would ask everyone if they had any plans or even a wish list of hiking they would like to do in 2011.
Michael and I want to head west and visit the Grand Canyon and hopefully Zion National Park to see the beautiful rock formations and get a taste of hiking over yonder. ?Of course it all depends on when/if we get pregnant this year. ?Plans for hiking are kinda in a flex state due to that. ?But, we want to be out there as much as possible.
Have you already been out hiking this year? ?Tell us all about it!
Last weekend Michael and my best bud, Shane, headed up Mt LeConte via Alum Cave with over 22" at the summit and 6" in the parking lot. ?I had a previously set appointment that I needed to keep. ?But, I was so glad that I stayed after him to get some micro spikes as they served him well. ?He only had one scary slip where he let go of his poles and grabbed the cable. ?I'm so glad that I didn't see that! ?There were also some huge?icicles?hanging from the overhangs. ?One came loose as Michael was passing under and it hit him hard on his arm which he had flung over his head for protection. ?Thank goodness for his
quick reflexes!!! ?
He called me from the summit to rub in just exactly what I was missing out on. ?You could hear the awe in his voice as he described the cerulean skies with a few fluffy ?yet crisply white clouds hanging languidly in the sky. ?I posted a couple of the pics he sent me from his phone on fb. ?I'll have to download the rest of them from his phone and post them for you too. ?They are amazing. ?
He told of his hands being so cold when he had to take his glove off to chip
the tuna he'd taken for lunch into bite size pieces of tunacubes. ?LOL ?It was so cold that Shane's water froze on the way up! ? Being so tense navigating the treacherous ice on the way down caused his back to hurt him quite badly. ?Let's just say he was ever so glad to get home and climb into the hot tub with a cold one. ?He said he was so cold he didn't think he'd ever thaw out again. ?LOL
So... mischief planned or managed? ?:)
?Tenacious Tanasi












      
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