Are the newbies mostly over at WhiteBlaze? I blame the decline of the list on FB. I really miss the list. Maybe the newbies are over there, too. a'bear Humankind (be both) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://patsy.hack.net/pipermail/at-l/attachments/20120217/825e3e5a/attachment.html