[at-l] at-l Digest, Vol 55, Issue 8
WILLIAM D VINCENT
vincentw at bellsouth.net
Wed Mar 7 18:12:49 CST 2012
Is it possible to re-route the trail around GSNP?
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Subject: at-l Digest, Vol 55, Issue 8
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Date: Wednesday, March 7, 2012, 6:08 PM
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Today's Topics:
1. Re: GSNP Backcountry reservation and fee system
(rcli4 at comcast.net)
2. Re: GSNP Backcountry reservation and fee system
(rcli4 at comcast.net)
3. Re: GSNP Backcountry reservation and fee system ( Tom Fort )
4. Re: GSNP Backcountry reservation and fee system (Dave Hicks)
5. sheesh (Jim Smith)
6. Re: sheesh (Amy Forinash)
7. Re: sheesh (rcli4 at comcast.net)
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 21:50:55 +0000 (UTC)
From: rcli4 at comcast.net
Subject: Re: [at-l] GSNP Backcountry reservation and fee system
To: Warren Doyle <warrendance at gmail.com>
Cc: at-l at backcountry.net
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I was gonna write a well thought out, insightful response to this.? Then I thought you know what?? You voted for Owebama.? You get what ya vote for.? Occupy a voting booth......
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From: "Warren Doyle" <warrendance at gmail.com>
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Sent: Wednesday, March 7, 2012 1:06:44 PM
Subject: [at-l] GSNP Backcountry reservation and fee system
Ridiculous. First the government reduces/threatens our individual freedoms and then it seeks to reduce our mountain FREEdom. Where was the ATC and ALDHA on this? How about the NPS AT Park office? All I can say is: catch me if you can.
If anyone would like to be in a high-profile, principled, non-violent, group action concerning this, I'm willing to organize something like this around 2013 National Trails Day. If a band of Cherokees could hike out from forced removal by government troops, surely 200-300 unregistered, unpaid backpackers organized to occupy the park for a few days could create a national stir on this all-important mountainFREEdom issue.
For the FREEdom of the hills,
Warren
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 21:56:55 +0000 (UTC)
From: rcli4 at comcast.net
Subject: Re: [at-l] GSNP Backcountry reservation and fee system
To: Warren Doyle <warrendance at gmail.com>
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I wonder how many years we could have avoided this if we took thehalf a BILLION Owebama gave to Solyndra for the campaign donations he got and sent it to the Smokies??
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From: "Warren Doyle" <warrendance at gmail.com>
To: at-l at backcountry.net
Sent: Wednesday, March 7, 2012 1:06:44 PM
Subject: [at-l] GSNP Backcountry reservation and fee system
Ridiculous. First the government reduces/threatens our individual freedoms and then it seeks to reduce our mountain FREEdom. Where was the ATC and ALDHA on this? How about the NPS AT Park office? All I can say is: catch me if you can.
If anyone would like to be in a high-profile, principled, non-violent, group action concerning this, I'm willing to organize something like this around 2013 National Trails Day. If a band of Cherokees could hike out from forced removal by government troops, surely 200-300 unregistered, unpaid backpackers organized to occupy the park for a few days could create a national stir on this all-important mountainFREEdom issue.
For the FREEdom of the hills,
Warren
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Warren Doyle
www.warrendoyle.com
Founder/Co-Director - Appalachian?Folk School
?????????????????????????????????????? ContraBlossom
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Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2012 17:06:45 -0500
From: " Tom Fort " <tom at tjfort.net>
Subject: Re: [at-l] GSNP Backcountry reservation and fee system
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oooo .... politics! lets just talk guns on the trail. LoL.
In general, the federal government wastes about half it's budget. Just
think what could be done about the debt, gas prices, and better parks.
Quoting rcli4 at comcast.net:
I wonder how many years we could have avoided this if we took
thehalf a BILLION Owebama gave to Solyndra for the campaign donations
he got and sent it to the Smokies?
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2012 17:34:19 -0500
From: "Dave Hicks" <carla_dave_hicks at verizon.net>
Subject: Re: [at-l] GSNP Backcountry reservation and fee system
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It?s legal to carry on most of the AT. Lots of them legally carried there already.
So what do you want to talk about? Weight? Logistical issues? Calibers? ??
Chainsaw
FWIIW, the logistical issues are mind boggling for a long-distant hiker and I was too much of a ounce / gram counter to carry on a long-distance trek.
From: Tom Fort
Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 5:06 PM
To: at-l at backcountry.net
Subject: Re: [at-l] GSNP Backcountry reservation and fee system
oooo .... politics! lets just talk guns on the trail. LoL.
In general, the federal government wastes about half it's budget. Just think what could be done about the debt, gas prices, and better parks.
Quoting rcli4 at comcast.net:
I wonder how many years we could have avoided this if we took thehalf a BILLION Owebama gave to Solyndra for the campaign donations he got and sent it to the Smokies?
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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 17:46:27 -0500
From: Jim Smith <cutter78 at gmail.com>
Subject: [at-l] sheesh
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I've been on this mailing list for several years. Many times I've wondered,
do the people on this list actually hike, or do they just discuss silly
stuff like green counter tops?
Still, the last few messages surprise me. I didn't expect to see
the pejoratives and off-topic claptrap.
Why don't people go outside and get some fresh air.
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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 18:30:00 -0500
From: Amy Forinash <aeforinash at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [at-l] sheesh
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We're at the end of winter. People start getting testy.
I agree. Everybody needs to go for a hike. I did Bears Den to Harpers Ferry weekend before last. Need to figure out a plan for my next trip, in 10 days. The hardest part of monthly backpacking trips is planning the itineraries.
-amy
On Mar 7, 2012, at 5:46 PM, Jim Smith wrote:
> I've been on this mailing list for several years. Many times I've wondered, do the people on this list actually hike, or do they just discuss silly stuff like green counter tops?
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> Still, the last few messages surprise me. I didn't expect to see the pejoratives and off-topic claptrap.
>
> Why don't people go outside and get some fresh air.
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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2012 00:08:09 +0000 (UTC)
From: rcli4 at comcast.net
Subject: Re: [at-l] sheesh
To: Jim Smith <cutter78 at gmail.com>
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I agree!!!? The fact that the federal Govt. has decided to charge fees to hike and camp instead of wise use of tax dollars is complete off topic claptrap.? Has nothing to do with hiking or camping.? This political stuff is getting out of hand!
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From: "Jim Smith" <cutter78 at gmail.com>
To: "at-l" <at-l at backcountry.net>
Sent: Wednesday, March 7, 2012 5:46:27 PM
Subject: [at-l] sheesh
I've been on this mailing list for several years. Many times I've wondered, do the people on this list actually hike, or do they just discuss silly stuff like green counter tops?
Still,?the last few messages surprise me.?I didn't expect to see the?pejoratives?and off-topic claptrap.
Why don't people go outside and get some fresh air.
?
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