[cdt-l] cdt-l Digest, Vol 37, Issue 24

Sat Nov 25 18:27:45 CST 2006

Jonathan and others,
Allen Stibora and I have spent a number of occasions searching in  
vain for a reliable and clean source of water at the location of the  
Malpais Spring in the Malpais.  The best we have ever come up with  
was a wet, greenish sponge of algae.  Probably okay for dire  
emergencies, but, at that point, you're close enough to some  
residences to beg water.  One of the local residents in that area  
thinks that the development of the area has changed the hydrology to  
the point that the spring is no longer viable.  Sad and familiar  
story in the West.

On Nov 25, 2006, at 11:00 AM, cdt-l-request at backcountry.net wrote:

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>    1. Re: Re-introduction and NM water question (Jonathan Ley)
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> Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2006 19:38:19 -0800
> From: "Jonathan Ley" <jonathan at phlumf.com>
> Subject: Re: [cdt-l] Re-introduction and NM water question
> To: <cdt-l at backcountry.net>
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> Apparently, there is a natural spring somewhere in El Malpais...  
> Some hikers
> I met in 2001 had coordinates for it. They had to lower someone  
> down into a
> vertical shaft of some sort to find the water (this was in the  
> springtime),
> but apparently it worked OK. Has anyone else heard of this source?  
> Or better
> yet, know the GPS coordinates for it? A cursory google search  
> didn't turn-up
> anything...
>
> -Jonathan
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cdt-l-bounces at backcountry.net [mailto:cdt-l- 
> bounces at backcountry.net]
> On Behalf Of Brett
> Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 12:34 PM
> To: cdt-l at backcountry.net
> Subject: Re: [cdt-l] Re-introduction and NM water question
>
>>> I plan to stash water south of El Malpais and somewhere
>>> near the narrows, then another one in Bonita Canyon at the
>>> northern end of the Zuni-Acoma trail.
>
> I know it's none of my beeswax, but what if plans change
> between now and spring? Would the water be up for grabs?
>
> Point being, the land won't benefit from it. And if this
> winter is wet, which is certainly a possibility thanks to El
> Nino, then hikers won't be looking for it.
>
>>> I just love my clean Colorado mountain well water.
>
> New Mexico has a lot of this too, in the form of windmills.
>
> Getting by without caches? Easy, breezy.
>
> - bf
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mark Dixon" <mkdixon1 at excite.com>
> To: <cdt-l at backcountry.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 3:13 PM
> Subject: [cdt-l] Re-introduction and NM water question
>
>
>>
>> Hi all, it's been about 8 years since I last listened in
>> or posted to this mail list. My friend Jim and I (PCT '98)
>> are planning a northbound CDT hike starting this spring,
>> sometime in mid-April. By the way, Congratulations to all
>> the recent southbound finishers!
>>
>> Water: I'm heading down to northern NM this week to visit
>> family and thought I'd stash some water for myself (and
>> anyone that finds themselves with me) for next spring. The
>> area of interest is the trail roughly between El Malpais
>> and Cuba. I plan to stash water south of El Malpais and
>> somewhere near the narrows, then another one in Bonita
>> Canyon at the northern end of the Zuni-Acoma trail.
>>
>> Question: Any other critical dry stretches between Grants
>> and Cuba? I know that everybody deals with the water
>> situation they face, but I just love my clean Colorado
>> mountain well water.
>>
>> Thanks in advance for any replies!
>>
>> Mark Dixon
>>
>>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2006 19:49:23 -0800
> From: "Jonathan Ley" <jonathan at phlumf.com>
> Subject: Re: [cdt-l] Southbound: Silver City to Mexican border then
> 	home
> To: <cdt-l at backcountry.net>
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> Congratulations on finishing your hike & good luck with that last  
> section! I
> think it's always nice to have an excuse to get out there & hike a  
> little
> bit more :-)
>
> -Jonathan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cdt-l-bounces at backcountry.net [mailto:cdt-l- 
> bounces at backcountry.net]
> On Behalf Of Alistair and Gail Des Moulins
> Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 7:53 PM
> To: cdt-l at backcountry.net
> Subject: [cdt-l] Southbound: Silver City to Mexican border then home
>
> Before leaving Silver City on 6th November, a reporter with the  
> Silver City
> Daily Press interviewed us and we made it to the front page on  
> Election Day!
> Check out www.scdailypress.com  and look at the issue for November  
> 7th.
> Nov 6th once we left town at 11:00 was spent mostly hiking down  
> paved NM90
> then turning off onto a gravel road.
>
>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2006 20:01:29 -0800
> From: "Jonathan Ley" <jonathan at phlumf.com>
> Subject: [cdt-l] CDT 2006!
> To: <cdt-l at backcountry.net>
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> I just wanted to say congratulations to all the 2006 hikers! It  
> sounds like
> the CDT this year had a great mix of unforgettable stories, crazy  
> weather,
> and nutty characters.
>
>
>
> If any 2006 hikers have feedback on changes to the route, or  
> interesting
> information they think would be helpful for future hikers, please  
> let me
> know. I'm planning to update the map CD-ROM in ~January 2007. I'll  
> take
> updates in just about any format you can manage - from a quick e- 
> mail, to
> marked-up hard-copies, or whatever.
>
>
>
> Thanks & good luck to those planning a 2007 hike!
>
>
>
> Jonathan
>
> jonathan at phlumf.com
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