[cdt-l] CDT 2007 Yahoo Group is up

Melissa Spencer melissaaspencer at hotmail.com
Thu Jan 18 16:29:10 CST 2007


Well,

You ask Buzz about something and he gets it done. For those of you planning 
to hike this year, we now have a Yahoo group. It can be found at:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CDT2007

--Treehugger


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>    1. Famous Hikers (Karen Somers)
>    2. Thanks for the slide shows (Karen Somers)
>    3. 2007 CDT Yahoo Group (Melissa Spencer)
>    4. Re: Average CDT age? (Melanie Simmerman)
>    5. 2007 Yahoo Group--try again (Melissa Spencer)
>    6. Re: 2007 CDT Yahoo Group (Slyatpct at aol.com)
>    7. More in the boot heel (Walter Cobbs)
>    8. Re: 2007 Yahoo Group (Melissa Spencer)
>    9. Trespass in New Mexico (Tom Jacoby)
>   10. Re: 2007 Yahoo Group (Ginny & Jim Owen)
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>Message: 1
>Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 09:15:42 -0800 (PST)
>From: Karen Somers <kborski at yahoo.com>
>Subject: [cdt-l] Famous Hikers
>To: cdt-l at backcountry.net
>Message-ID: <16184.3336.qm at web56904.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
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>Paul wrote:
>
>Ellerbee asked a few more questions. As Earl was
>walking away, Ellerbee
>asked "What has been the hardest part of the trip?"
>Earl's reply? "Reporters and their questions!"
>---------------------------------------------
>
>
>I thru-hiked the AT nobo in '98 and met Earl several
>times.  As soon as the other thru-hikers realized that
>reporters were scouting out Earl's location constantly
>(I would often meet conspicuous "day hikers" who would
>start up a "nice" conversation only to end up asking
>me where I thought Earl was; even once met reporters
>with a camera crew and name badges on their shirts),
>we began to throw them off his track and irritate
>them.  They were very annoying to all of us, but we
>particularly did not want Earl being bothered.
>
>It was a strange thing to be in the middle of the
>woods and then see papparazzi.  Seriously weird.
>
>Nearly as weird as the abortion bomber, Eric Rudolph,
>who retreated to woods around the AT that year,
>sending FBI and undercover agents onto the trail.
>They searched tents and commandeered shelter
>registers.
>
>But that was after the police chased the bank robber
>off the Georgia AT where he was using thru-hiking as
>his guise and get-away vehicle.  That guy "wisely"
>took the trail name "Richie Rich" after other hikers
>saw him counting hundred dollar bills at a shelter
>picnic table.
>
>I don't know if you call these latter two famous, but
>the did contribute to the attention that the AT
>received in 1998 and subsequent years.
>
>And then there's Bryson.  I know some folks who hiked
>with him for the few miles he was out on the AT doing
>his research, but I'm not sure what year that was, and
>I'm sure he wasn't as famous then as he is now.
>
>Nocona
>
>
>
>____________________________________________________________________________________
>Don't get soaked.  Take a quick peak at the forecast
>with the Yahoo! Search weather shortcut.
>http://tools.search.yahoo.com/shortcuts/#loc_weather
>
>
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>Message: 2
>Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 09:18:02 -0800 (PST)
>From: Karen Somers <kborski at yahoo.com>
>Subject: [cdt-l] Thanks for the slide shows
>To: cdt-l at backcountry.net
>Message-ID: <20070118171802.27486.qmail at web56909.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
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>I want to thank Jim and Ginny, as well as Spur and
>Ready for the wonderful CDT slide shows at the
>southern Ruck last weekend...and for answering some of
>our questions.  Bald Eagle and I really enjoyed the
>beautiful photos and came away doubly inspired.
>
>Nocona
>
>
>
>____________________________________________________________________________________
>Don't pick lemons.
>See all the new 2007 cars at Yahoo! Autos.
>http://autos.yahoo.com/new_cars.html
>
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>Message: 3
>Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 09:55:46 -0800
>From: "Melissa Spencer" <melissaaspencer at hotmail.com>
>Subject: [cdt-l] 2007 CDT Yahoo Group
>To: cdt-l at backcountry.net
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>Message: 4
>Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 10:14:27 -0800 (PST)
>From: Melanie Simmerman <jennylind50 at yahoo.com>
>Subject: Re: [cdt-l] Average CDT age?
>To: cdt-l at backcountry.net
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>I didn't think I was going to reply to this topic, was
>surprised it became so popular.
>
>Cupcake/John - what can you mean? I was on the PCT in
>2002, met you actually, and there were quite a few of
>us over 40 -- including me. In fact, on all trails
>that I've hiked, there have been quite a contingent of
>over 40, even over 50 hikers. Perhaps not as many as
>the 20's just out of college crowd...but not
>invisible.
>
>In fact, my first thru-hike was the AT in 1996, when I
>was 42.  Still going strong. Working on the Triple
>Crown, and hope to be out there when I'm 80. My
>inspiration is a great hiker (Irene
>Cline/"Tag-a-Long": you go girl!)who is now well into
>her 80's, and just finished section hiking the ICE AGE
>Trail with her sister. I met her in GA once, as she
>was finishing her last section of the AT at age 79!
>
>I rarely meet other Manhattanites on thru-hikes,
>though!!!!
>
>Oh - on the famous hikers topic: Jacques D'Amboise,
>danseur extraordinaire with Balanchine's NYC Ballet
>(long retired and probably well over 50 or 60 at the
>time, now Dir. of Nat'l Dance Inst.) thru-hiked the AT
>in 1999. I met him in Maine near Gulf Hagas, when I
>was working on the MATC/FORCE trail crew.
>Lemstar (Melanie) NYC
>
>--- John Brennan <john at frozenpoodle.com> wrote:
>
> > I'm a little late on this thread.
> >
> >
> >
> > I turned 40 on the PCT in 2002 and I'll be 44 when I
> > finish the CDT this
> > year. I did not find a lot of people my age, and I
> > often think that maybe I
> > should be working on my career, etc.
> >
> >
> >
> > I want to tag on to what GottaWalk said below. In my
> > pre-long-distance-backpacking days, I always felt
> > that the fact that I was
> > gay was invisible. When I hiked the PCT the activist
> > in me wanted to be
> > visible as a gay man.  That's one of the reasons I
> > took the name Cupcake.
> > Somewhere along the way (as "we did our miles and
> > found the water and camped
> > out"), it stopped being important. I was a hiker. On
> > the CDT, I tried to
> > switch back to John, but most people knew me as
> > Cupcake.
> >
> >
> >
> > It's been great to meet the other LGBT hikers out
> > there and my visibility
> > has facilitated that, but in the end we are all just
> > hikers. Cool.
> >
> >
> >
> > Wouldn't it be great if a thru-hike was a
> > prerequisite for world leaders?
> > Image "World Troop" thru-hiking, including Bush,
> > al-Sistani, Talabani,
> > Ahmadineja, Jong-il, Karzai, Putin, Blair, Olmert,
> > Abbas, al-Assad and
> > Abdullah.
> >
> > -John / Cupcake
> >
> >   _____
> >
> > From: cdt-l-bounces at backcountry.net
> > [mailto:cdt-l-bounces at backcountry.net]
> > On Behalf Of Marcia
> > Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 12:55 PM
> > To: cdt-l at backcountry.net
> > Subject: Re: [cdt-l] Average CDT age?
> >
> >
> >
> > <Snip>One of my happiest realizations was that I was
> > a hiker. I walked my
> > miles like everybody else and hung out in town with
> > the other hikers. I
> > didn't feel like a female or older hiker...I was
> > just one of the hikers to
> > the point that a Hiker isn't a gender, age, income
> > level, education level or
> > former occupation. I was a Hiker just like the
> > others and we did our miles
> > and found the water and camped out.
> >
> >  <snip>
> >
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>____________________________________________________________________________________
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>Message: 5
>Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 10:23:23 -0800
>From: "Melissa Spencer" <melissaaspencer at hotmail.com>
>Subject: [cdt-l] 2007 Yahoo Group--try again
>To: cdt-l at backcountry.net
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>This may be easier to read:
>
>Does anyone know if there is a Yahoo Group for this year's hopefuls? I have
>been chatting with Buzz (PCT 2004) and he is willing to start one if we
>won't be stepping on anyone's toes. Thanks!
>
>- Treehugger
>
>
>
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>Message: 6
>Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 14:24:52 EST
>From: Slyatpct at aol.com
>Subject: Re: [cdt-l] 2007 CDT Yahoo Group
>To: cdt-l at backcountry.net
>Message-ID: <ced.7728363.32e12384 at aol.com>
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>
>In a message dated 1/18/2007 2:12:49 PM Eastern Standard Time,
>melissaaspencer at hotmail.com writes:
>
>Does  anyone know if a Yahoo group has been started for the 2007 group? I
>have been  chatting with Izzy (PCT 2004) about it, and if it isn't going to 
>step
>on  anyone's toes, he is going to start one.
>
>
>
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>Why?  Of course, you can do what you want to do but it's not like this  
>list
>gets an extraordinary amount of mail and is fairly topic centric.
>
>Sly
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>Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 15:11:49 -0500
>From: "Walter Cobbs" <walter.cobbs at gmail.com>
>Subject: [cdt-l] More in the boot heel
>To: cdt-l at backcountry.net
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>Richard Mallery/ DickEBird--
>
>It rejoices my heart that you found the Elegant Trogon in the Chiricahuas.
>My likewise successful pursuit there was exactly the reason I thought the
>Animas Range (not some bypass), which is the next door neighbor, would 
>prove
>good hiking and good birding.
>Walt
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>Message: 8
>Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 13:10:56 -0800
>From: "Melissa Spencer" <melissaaspencer at hotmail.com>
>Subject: Re: [cdt-l] 2007 Yahoo Group
>To: cdt-l at backcountry.net
>Cc: slyatpct at aol.com
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>Sly,
>
>You have a good point, and I don't want people to have to subscribe to yet
>another group. I like this one for the pure fact that the number of people
>hiking/have hiked the CDT is so small, we have a good way to reach more
>people, both past and present. My reasoning for starting an 07 group is:
>
>1. Because I think the Yahoo groups have more utilities as far as file
>sharing and databases, etc. (For example, I was thinking of starting a
>database of the current year hopefuls, their trail names, where they live,
>their intended direction of travel, their email addresses and links to 
>their
>journals.)
>
>2. Because I don't think the whole group cares/needs to hear all the 
>details
>of this year's hike. If I think I can benefit from other peoples' 
>knowledge,
>I can still post to the cdt-l. (For example, I don't think the whole cdt-l
>would care to be included in the aforementioned database.)
>
>3. I imagined we could use the Yahoo group to stay in contact with each
>other while we are on the trail this summer.
>
>It is certainly not meant to replace, or compete with, this group. Does
>anyone else think it is redundant/unnecessary? I welcome your thoughts.
>
>- Treehugger
>
>
>
>
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>Message: 9
>Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 14:50:30 -0700
>From: "Tom Jacoby" <tomj at tularosa.net>
>Subject: [cdt-l] Trespass in New Mexico
>To: <cdt-l at backcountry.net>
>Message-ID: <001e01c73b4a$ac4f10f0$6401a8c0 at TomJacoby>
>Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"
>
>
>In New Mexico, if you're on private or controlled land that hasn't been
>"posted", you're not trespassing - UNLESS you've been asked to leave the
>land.
>
>To keep you from entering private or controlled property, the owner must
>post "No Trespassing" notices. There are specific requirements for the form
>these notices must take and where they must be posted.
>
>The owner does not have to furnish you with a map or a copy of the title to
>the land, or otherwise prove ownership to you. (Of course, it's illegal for
>a person to post land that he doesn't legally own or control.)
>
>To learn more about New Mexico trespass laws, see NMSA 1978 30-14 available
>at http://www.conwaygreene.com.
>
>Both the state of New Mexico and the feds can deny you entry to public 
>lands
>including roads. It's legal, and they do it all the time. Try entering the
>backcountry at White Sands Missile Range!
>
>Personally, I believe that the Grey Ranch policies are misguided at best,
>and I'm disappointed that the Nature Conservancy supports these policies.
>This specific issue is why I took the Conservancy off my Christmas list
>several years ago.
>
>-tom
>
>-----Original Message-----
> >Message: 3
> >Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 10:05:09 -0500
> >From: "RICHARD MALLERY" <dickebird at gmail.com>
> >Subject: [cdt-l] More Frank Sinatra in the Bootheel
>
> >If it is actually private land it seems it would be fairly easy for the
> >Foundation to lay it out for anyone asking in the form of a map showing
> >their private landholdings. They prefer the brick wall approach because
> >they know they do not really control the bootheel. The bottom line for
> >me after all this informational digging was that I could legally cross
> >If I was trespassing it was only because the rightful owner could not
> >or would not show me what he owned or did not own, what he leased or
> >did not lease, what government roads did or did not cross his holdings.
>
>
>
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>Message: 10
>Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 16:59:37 -0500
>From: "Ginny & Jim Owen" <spiritbear2k at hotmail.com>
>Subject: Re: [cdt-l] 2007 Yahoo Group
>To: cdt-l at backcountry.net
>Message-ID: <BAY101-F21994B6A207AEC11CA5BDA87AA0 at phx.gbl>
>Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
>
>I agree with Sly - cdt-l isn't that busy, and you can get better answers to
>questions from those who have hiked the trail or live in the area than from
>those who haven't.  Besides, I think a lot of us enjoy the energy and
>enthusiasm of the prospective hikers  - we'd like to share it.  Don't hide
>it away.
>
>One problem with the Yahoo groups is that while current trail information
>may be shared among the members, it isn't shared with other people who 
>might
>want/need that information.  i.e. if you say that a certain well is dry, 
>the
>section hiker a week behind, who isn't on the 2007 Yahoo group, wouldn't 
>get
>that information. He might if it's on cdt-l.  Next year's hikers wouldn't
>hear about the town grocery going out of business - only those subscribed 
>to
>the group would hear. Jim Wolf, who includes information from cdt-l in his
>trail updates in DividEnds, wouldn't get the information.  On CDT-L
>information is open to everyone, not just a limited few.
>
>Ginny
>
>
>
>
>-----------------------------------------------------------
>http://www.spiriteaglehome.com/
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >From: "Melissa Spencer" <melissaaspencer at hotmail.com>
> >Reply-To: cdt-l at backcountry.net
> >To: cdt-l at backcountry.net
> >CC: slyatpct at aol.com
> >Subject: Re: [cdt-l] 2007 Yahoo Group
> >Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 13:10:56 -0800
> >
> >Sly,
> >
> >You have a good point, and I don't want people to have to subscribe to 
>yet
> >another group. I like this one for the pure fact that the number of 
>people
> >hiking/have hiked the CDT is so small, we have a good way to reach more
> >people, both past and present. My reasoning for starting an 07 group is:
> >
> >1. Because I think the Yahoo groups have more utilities as far as file
> >sharing and databases, etc. (For example, I was thinking of starting a
> >database of the current year hopefuls, their trail names, where they 
>live,
> >their intended direction of travel, their email addresses and links to
> >their
> >journals.)
> >
> >2. Because I don't think the whole group cares/needs to hear all the
> >details
> >of this year's hike. If I think I can benefit from other peoples'
> >knowledge,
> >I can still post to the cdt-l. (For example, I don't think the whole 
>cdt-l
> >would care to be included in the aforementioned database.)
> >
> >3. I imagined we could use the Yahoo group to stay in contact with each
> >other while we are on the trail this summer.
> >
> >It is certainly not meant to replace, or compete with, this group. Does
> >anyone else think it is redundant/unnecessary? I welcome your thoughts.
> >
> >- Treehugger
> >
> >
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