[cdt-l] New Mexico trespassing

joseph beals bealsjw at yahoo.com
Tue May 1 16:07:49 CDT 2007


I alredy have jonathan's maps and haven't printed or
used them to navigate as of yet, do I need to consider
looking at another set as well?  -Joe
--- Ginny & Jim Owen <spiritbear2k at hotmail.com> wrote:

> 
> michael sandoval wrote:
> >
> >     I have a quick question:  what is the deal
> with trespassing in New
> >Mexico?  Do thru hikers just hop fences and think
> nothing about it?  Do we
> >need to hop fences?  What is the story down there?
> >     michael
> >
> >
> > >From: Caryl Bergeron <caryl_bergeron at yahoo.com>
> > >Reply-To: cdt-l at backcountry.net
> > >To: cdt-l at backcountry.net
> > >Subject: [cdt-l] New Mexico Permits
> > >Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2007 11:40:36 -0700 (PDT)
> > >
> > >We're looking at the New Mexico State Lands
> Office and see that their
> > >recreational use permit costs $25.  Is this
> really required and does
> > >anybody actually get one?
> > >
> 
> Let's go for a double play here -
> 
> For Caryl -  To my knowledge nobody's ever brought
> up the question before.  
> It's illegal to camp on NM State land, but as far as
> I know it's not illegal 
> to walk across it.  So - why would you need a
> recreational use permit? If 
> you want to pursue this, call them.  And then please
> let the rest of us know 
> the answer.
> 
> For Michael - There's no reason to be trespassing. 
> I know - there are those 
> who have proudly proclaiimed how often they've
> trespassed.  That's kinda 
> like bragging about being too dumb to know where you
> are.  Nor does it take 
> a GPS to keep you straight - all it takes is the
> right maps (the BLM land 
> use maps) - and the elementary ability to
> "navigate."  Meaning - the ability 
> to actually pay attention to where you are and
> relate what you see to the 
> map.  Anyone who can't do that shouldn't be on the
> trail in the first place 
> - because even with a GPS you have to relate to the
> map.
> 
> Truth is that the CDT is very nearly as well marked
> as the PCT - the 
> exceptions being the Carson Forest in NM and a
> couple places lin Colorado.
> 
> Hmm - back to the subject at hand - none of the
> above means you'll never 
> have to hop a fence.  A lot of the BLM land is
> divided into fenced sections, 
> with barbed wire around each one mile square.  We
> found that the easiest way 
> to "hop" a fence was to find a place where we could
> slide under - and use a 
> piece of Tyvek to slide on - real slick.  Just be
> sure you're hopping the 
> RIGHT  fence.
> 
> BTW - the RIGHT maps are listed on our website at 
> http://spiriteaglehome.com/cdt06%20maps.html . 
> Specifically, we used the 
> appropriate BLM and USFS maps - as well as
> Jonathon's maps.
> 
> Walk softly,
> Jim
> 
>
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