[Cdt-l] Cdt-l Digest, Vol 4, Issue 25

debi vinson debins97214 at yahoo.com
Fri Jan 25 08:11:01 CST 2008


Frisian Rhino,
   
  Met you on Pct outside of Ashland in 2005 - actually have a photo of you and me with the two guys i was hiking with at the time. The four of us. Remember? 
  Anyway, my partner and I, Rabbit, will be hiking - starting at Glacier around that time as well. 
   
  Write me off line at debins97214 at yahoo.com
   
  Thanks, debi

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Today's Topics:

1. cdt hiking list (P. CDT)
2. postholer (Jonathan Ley)
3. Thru-Hike 08 planning, Route Choices, etc. (Scott Polewach)
4. Re: Thru-Hike 08 planning, Route Choices, etc. (Patrick Beggan)
5. Re: Thru-Hike 08 planning, Route Choices, etc. (Jeff Braun)


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Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 19:43:01 +0100
From: "P. CDT" 
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Hello,

I'm planning to hike the CDT this year, soutbound, starting June 29 in Glacier National park. If there is someone who wanna join me, great!

Frisian Rhino (Friesland, The Netherlands))
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Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 12:06:58 -0800
From: Jonathan Ley 
Subject: [Cdt-l] postholer
To: cdt-l at backcountry.net
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The postholer has been updated recently so you can look at the data 
compared to any date. The default is April 1, but there is a dropdown 
menu at top to select different dates. Plus, the bars act as convenient 
links to the snotel sites, where you can find more info.
www.postholer.com

Still, I think that this page is most useful & more visual (which is on 
one of the links that Ginny provided below):
http://www.wcc.nrcs.usda.gov/cgibin/westsnow.pl
Which leads you to maps like:
ftp://ftp.wcc.nrcs.usda.gov/support/water/westwide/snowpack/wy2008/snow0801.gif

-Jonathan

Jim and/or Ginny Owen wrote:
> The postholer is fun to look at, but not nearly as helpful for 
> understanding what is happening on the ground as the NRCS snow data 
> pages. ftp://ftp.wcc.nrcs.usda.gov/data/snow/update/mt.txt 
> ftp://ftp.wcc.nrcs.usda.gov/data/snow/update/co.txt
> http://www.mt.nrcs.usda.gov/snow/data/current.html etc. (There are 
> several NOAA links are on our links page.) Postholer tells how the 
> snow relates to an April 1 average ,while the NOAA sites tell how the 
> current snow levels relate to normal current levels. Different issue 
> until you get near April 1. 
>
> Ginny
> http://www.spiriteaglehome.com/
>
>
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> Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2008 22:04:44 -0800
> From: dishjad at yahoo.com
> To: cdt-l at backcountry.net
> Subject: [Cdt-l] 2008 CDT hikers list
>
> Cadence,
> 
> Ladyface and I are planning CDT thru hike this year, watching the
> CDT postholer data daily and for now are thinking southbound is
> going to be the way to go, subject to change with future snows. 
> Looks like another buddy from back east that thru-hiked AT may
> join us, Packman, would love to have some company starting out and
> especially through grizz country...we're thinking appx June 15
> start date from Glacier as of now.
> 
> You can reach me offline at dishjad at yahoo.com
> .
> 
> CDT08, woo hoo!! 
> 
> Rabbit
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Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 21:55:38 -0500
From: Scott Polewach 
Subject: [Cdt-l] Thru-Hike 08 planning, Route Choices, etc.
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I'm planning on NOBOing starting in the last week of May. I plan to finish by the end of August/beginning of September. I thru-hiked the AT on 06 and did a 850 mile section of the AT and the PCT in 07. I plan to do another 850 mile AT section this spring so that I'm prepared for the CDT. I am planning on the toughness of the CDT miles to be somewhere between AT and PCT, in general. I do have Yogi's guide, and my LeDorme maps, and J. Ley maps are on the way. 

How many NOBOs actually found the Wolf guides to be useful?



Most of the information that I've read about mosquitoes is written by southbounders. What will the biting insect situation be for someone on my timeline? I plan on picking up my ice axe in Ghost Ranch, NM. Would Cuba be a better place, or even earlier? Will instep crampons be useful in the San Juans if If I plan on entering them around the 20th of June, give or take a few days? 

I'm not a big hitching fan, so I'm currently planning on going straight through from Grand Lake, CO to Rawlings, WY. Is this 240 mile section especially tough? 

Most importantly, I'm trying to figure out what route I want to plan on taking for my CDT '08 thru attempt.

I think that I'm pretty decided on taking the Wolf Route through Southern NM and the San Juans instead of the Creede.

I don't really understand the choice that I have to make between the Red Desert ant the Ferris Mountains...what is the character of the hike through each area? Scenic, mileage, trail condition, water, private property, etc.

I also don't really understand the route choices between Henry's Lake and Mack's Inn. Obviously the resupply on Mack's Inn route is more convenient, but what again, what is the character of each hike?


For the Anaconda/Butte choice, has anyone actually hiked the Butte Route? >From what I've heard, the Anaconda route makes more sense in pretty much every way (shorter, easier resupply, more scenic, less ATVs, etc.)


Thanks,


Hermes

aka Scott Polewach

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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 22:05:07 -0500
From: Patrick Beggan 
Subject: Re: [Cdt-l] Thru-Hike 08 planning, Route Choices, etc.
To: Scott Polewach , cdt-l at backcountry.net
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3 months or so for the whole trail is very aggressive. Good luck! I 
used Jonathan Ley's maps along with the Colorado official guidebook 
for the section I did southbound from Grand Lake and everything was 
very accurate, I had no problems with the official guidebook.

Most of the section south from Grand Lake is fairly easy, although is 
at altitude -- but at this point you should be acclimated. As long as 
you push you should be okay. I had a friend stationed at Ft. Carson 
deliver me resupply boxes, though, so I can't give you specific 
resupply advice.

Any other sections I'm not knowledgeable about, though. Hope you find 
your answers and have fun.


On Jan 24, 2008, at 9:55 PM, Scott Polewach wrote:

> I'm planning on NOBOing starting in the last week of May. I plan to 
> finish by the end of August/beginning of September. I thru-hiked the 
> AT on 06 and did a 850 mile section of the AT and the PCT in 07. I 
> plan to do another 850 mile AT section this spring so that I'm 
> prepared for the CDT. I am planning on the toughness of the CDT 
> miles to be somewhere between AT and PCT, in general. I do have 
> Yogi's guide, and my LeDorme maps, and J. Ley maps are on the way. 
> How many NOBOs actually found the Wolf guides to be useful? Most of 
> the information that I've read about mosquitoes is written by 
> southbounders. What will the biting insect situation be for someone 
> on my timeline? I plan on picking up my ice axe in Ghost Ranch, NM. 
> Would Cuba be a better place, or even earlier? Will instep crampons 
> be useful in the San Juans if If I plan on entering them around the 
> 20th of June, give or take a few days? I'm not a big hitching fan, 
> so I'm currently planning on going straight through from Grand Lake, 
> CO to Rawlings, WY. Is this 240 mile section especially tough? Most 
> importantly, I'm trying to figure out what route I want to plan on 
> taking for my CDT '08 thru attempt. I think that I'm pretty decided 
> on taking the Wolf Route through Southern NM and the San Juans 
> instead of the Creede. I don't really understand the choice that I 
> have to make between the Red Desert ant the Ferris Mountains...what 
> is the character of the hike through each area? Scenic, mileage, 
> trail condition, water, private property, etc. I also don't really 
> understand the route choices between Henry's Lake and Mack's Inn. 
> Obviously the resupply on Mack's Inn route is more convenient, but 
> what again, what is the character of each hike? For the Anaconda/ 
> Butte choice, has anyone actually hiked the Butte Route? >From what 
> I've heard, the Anaconda route makes more sense in pretty much every 
> way (shorter, easier resupply, more scenic, less ATVs, etc.) Thanks, 
> Hermes aka Scott Polewach
> Shed those extra pounds with MSN and The Biggest Loser! Learn more. 
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Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 22:32:27 -0700
From: Jeff Braun 
Subject: Re: [Cdt-l] Thru-Hike 08 planning, Route Choices, etc.
To: Scott Polewach 
Cc: cdt-l at backcountry.net
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