[Cdt-l] Cdt-l Digest, Vol 9, Issue 7

debi vinson debins97214 at yahoo.com
Mon Jun 9 19:15:35 CDT 2008

Thanks for your response and input!
  OH MY GAWD!!! I'm so sorry you had that experience, Nocona.. thanks for sharing this with us all.  We've already mailed the box, and she told us the same thing," Call from East Glacier".  She is nice - like you say. But maybe a little overwhelmed? ummm Well, we will definitely look to hitching out of there if no access to box and no person around. Thank gosh (on a fluke )i've kept out at least the JW book for that section.  
  Good Luck everybody! 
  Thanks, debi

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Today's Topics:

1. looking for a ride from Denver (soulas cyrille)
2. BenchMark Mystery (R Smith)
3. Re: BenchMark Mystery (Karen Somers)


Message: 1
Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 17:55:13 +0000 (GMT)
From: soulas cyrille 
Subject: [Cdt-l] looking for a ride from Denver
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hello from France!

i'm planning to hike the Colorado CDTsouthbound next august.
I will fly to Denver on august 8th, it's a friday.
I'm looking for a ride or any kind of public transportation to get to Encapment or any place near the Wyoming/Colorado border, that's where i wish i could start my hike.
i'm not familiar with the local transportation, but i will pay for the gas if anyone can offer me a ride to the border.

Advices are welcome!


french bob

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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 17:15:38 -0700
From: "R Smith" 
Subject: [Cdt-l] BenchMark Mystery
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Hmmm...your remarks below make me feel uncomfortable about the Benchmark
drop. Think I'll send food, but no maps or Jim Wolf pages. I can use Augusta
as a backup for the food.
I just mailed Beverly my $25 to her PO box, will let you know if it gets

The BenchMark Mystery

We mailed our check 3 weeks ago ( they have not received it ) to the PO
Box 190. ( As was advised in the Yogi book )

I just called Beverly at 406-562-3336 to ask which address (among three)
should i send our box to.

Benchmark Road # 1, Augusta, Mt
422 county Line Road C/o Darwin or Shellie Heckman ( we got this address
and heads up off of the CDT - L )
Po Box 190, Augusta, Mt 

Beverly assured us to send our UPS package it to the PO Box 190 address (I
didn't think that Ups delivered to PO Boxes? ) - she said she's been doing
this for 30 years,and doesn't understand what the confusion is. She also,
of course, can't find our check soo naturally,...... We are CONFUSED?!?!

Any one have any solid information about this? 

One Box, Two Box, Here and Box, There a Box, Where's your Box? 

Thanks, Jeff, Debi and Matt


Message: 3
Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 07:59:52 -0700 (PDT)
From: Karen Somers 
Subject: Re: [Cdt-l] BenchMark Mystery
To: cdt-l at backcountry.net, R Smith 
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I really hate to even say this, because Beverly is very nice and Benchmark is a neat place.
However, based on my experiences and those of my other hiker friends, I would NOT recommend Benchmark as a mail drop.  We spent a lot of money ($25 x 2  people plus the extra cost of UPS) only to arrive at Benchmark with completely empty food bags and a locked cabin inside which sat our drop box (we could see it through the window).  We followed all of Beverly's directions, including calling her just before we left East Glacier to let her know the exact day that we would be there (we stuck to our schedule even though we could've easily made it in the day before our plan).
After arriving at the cabin, we waited for A DAY AND A HALF, camping out in the yard.  Lots of cars came and went on the dirt road outside.  (Luckily, there was a hiker box on her porch, so we were able to cook up some left-behind dinners to tide us over while we waited).  Finally, we hitched into Augusta.  It took us about 15 min to get a ride to town!  First car stopped.  It is about a 45-min drive, if I remember correctly.
In Augusta, we went in a general store and asked where/how to find Beverly.  We called her and she said she'd be out to the ranch later that evening.  She said she thought WE weren't supposed to be there for another day (????).  So, we spent that day in town, eating a restaurant meal and buying some fresh food.  Augusta is a GREAT trail town.  Compact, cute, real, plenty to eat, an affordable hostel, a hotel, park and library.  GREAT bar, too.  And the friendliest people we have EVER met in any trail town on the PCT or AT.  We TOTALLY regretted not just going into Augusta and skipping Benchmark altogether.  It would've saved us $60 (which we could have spent on an air conditioned room with a hot shower) and a lot of angst.  We would have had a nice relaxing town stay with plenty of good food and ultra neat people to meet.
Hitching back on a week day was harder than getting out to town.  It took us about three hours and two rides to get back to the ranch/trail.  Hard, but I've had worse on other trails.....
I guess I would just recommend that you not be intimidated by the remoteness of Benchmark.  It may be down a one-way dirt road, but we found it remarkable easy and worthwhile to get into town.  There is of traffic on the road, esp. on weekends, because there's plenty of camping and fishing along the road.  It's still a long, hard haul from Benchmark to Lincoln, so the down time to get into Augusta is worth having.  Everyone who pushed straight through to Lincoln with no rest was so tired that they had to take a zero in Lincoln anyway.
There were several other irrate and hungry thru-hikers who had the same experience with their boxes as we did at Benchmark.  Some of Beverly's neighbors who gave us one of our rides told us that they see hikers in that fix all the time (food locked up and no one there).  
Benchmark is really a lovely place and its proprieter is lovely.  In all honesty, the service to thru-hikers is not neglectful, as much as it is just highly unorganized.  

--- On Sun, 6/8/08, R Smith <ronyon at comcast.net> wrote:

From: R Smith <ronyon at comcast.net>
Subject: [Cdt-l] BenchMark Mystery
To: cdt-l at backcountry.net
Date: Sunday, June 8, 2008, 7:15 PM

Hmmm...your remarks below make me feel uncomfortable about the Benchmark
drop. Think I'll send food, but no maps or Jim Wolf pages. I can use
as a backup for the food.
I just mailed Beverly my $25 to her PO box, will let you know if it gets

The BenchMark Mystery

We mailed our check 3 weeks ago ( they have not received it ) to the PO
Box 190. ( As was advised in the Yogi book )

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