[Cdt-l] finding a function's definition from a call

Bill Bill at Luttge.com
Thu Dec 17 10:40:28 CST 2009

I'm only 5'4" and 65 yo, so I'm finding this discussion on river crossing
techniques and experiences to be very informative.  I've already completed a
number of long thru-hikes (including the PCT), but the prospects of big
rivers on my CDT nobo thru-hike this Spring has me concerned.




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From: cdt-l-bounces at backcountry.net [mailto:cdt-l-bounces at backcountry.net]
On Behalf Of Jim and_or Ginny Owen
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 11:18 AM
To: prairiesky at yahoo.com; cdt-l
Subject: Re: [Cdt-l] finding a function's definition from a call


I'm 5' 6". We hiked south on our first thruhike and had some problems with
snowmelt in the Bob, but nothing that we couldn't deal with.  (See our 1999
journal.)  In one case we headed upstream to avoid a double crossing.  The
detour was probably worse than the crossing would have been.  In another
case we looked at a map and found a road that we could follow that would
take us around the bad crossing.  One of the bad crossings now has a bridge
(or it did in 2006).  We were in Glacier after the bridges had been put up,
except one, so that wasn't a problem for us.  Our worst crossings were thigh
high - nothing higher than that.  If the water was going so fast that I
couldn't keep my hiking stick solidly planted, we found a better place to
As to crossing technique:  Jim and I cross arm in arm, with him upstream to
break the force of the water.  We cross sort of like you do a three legged
race:  only one person moves at a time, with the other acting as anchor.  We
both use hiking sticks as well for better balance. We have been swept off
our feet, even so, but usually only for the time it takes for the person
being swept to get their footing again.  
Snowmelt is cold.  Keep your shoes on.  When you can't feel your feet, it is
easy to step on sharp rocks and not know it until you have been cut.




Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 05:28:18 -0800
From: prairiesky at yahoo.com
To: cdt-l at backcountry.net
Subject: Re: [Cdt-l] finding a function's definition from a call

Okay, Jonathan tells me that flip-flops get your feet wet and get torn off
in moving water ;).  Now are there any short folks out there &/or women out
there on this list who can tell me of their experiences?  :-D.  My original
plans were to do a sobo trip.  I'm not afraid of getting my feet wet.  But
carrying 30+ lbs on my back up to my chest is something I would be concerned
about in running and cold waters.  If I can still plan this, that would be
great.  If I can do enough exploring to find shallower areas, that would be
terrific.  I've read journal upon journal.  Mostly I've read journals from
guys who are 5'7" or more.  My son, who will be walking with me is about
5'11".  But still, a crossing for a 5'7" person puts the water they
experienced at waist up to my armpits.  I'm short but strong.  I was a water
safety instructor years and years ago, so I do have a healthy respect for
water.  I take risks, but I'm not going to take a risk that is life
threatening.  I've been in fast moving flood waters up to my knees and using
a pole, that might not have been so unnerving.  I didn't have a pole since I
was just on my way to my car at the time, lol.  And?  I was flat out
ignorant at the time.  But that gush of water gave me a quick education!

I've read about creek crossing techniques, however reading is no substitute
for experience. Hmmmm.

Ideas?  Help?


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