[Cdt-l] Routes

Sly hikertrash at gmail.com
Wed Jan 7 14:51:14 CST 2009

I think Jim and Ginny have hiked Palomas and Crazy Cook.   

I like being able to start for end from within Mexico.  Transportation 
to and from the trail is easier, along with resupply.  I realize it has 
a bit of paved road walking but if I'm not mistaken, you'll get that in 
and out of Silver City.  That said, one of the things I like about the 
CDT is the alternate routes.  To each their own.

Also, it was the second sentence about self important triple crown 
southbounde, I wasn't thrilled at.  It's a long hard struggle and I 
think most are pretty humble in the experience when it comes down to it. 


Brett wrote:
> Dunno Sly. I also hiked the Wolf route north from Columbus (Palomas), 
> but can any of us really claim to have a preference when virtually 
> none of us has hiked more than one of the three?
> - bf
> Sly wrote:
>> Am I the only person that could care less about the Crazy Cook and 
>> Antelope Wells routes and prefers the alternate to/from Palomas?  I'm 
>> not too thrilled about the 1st sentence below either.
>> Sly
>> Jim Eagleton wrote:
>>> I highly recommend the Crazy Cook route, especially for NOBO's. 
>>> For sobo's, you are self important triple crowners who aren't going 
>>> to listen to advice , and are too beat up to take the scenic route, 
>>> just follow pavement south from Silver City.  Actually, there is an 
>>> unfortunate logistical problem for sobo's.  From the border it is a 
>>> full day to a crumby hitch and a couple of days back to a major 
>>> road.  I can understand how this would be considered an 
>>> anticlimactic finish, unless you have someone picking you up. 
>>> NOBO's should try to car pool or contact Sam Hughes, or other 
>>> shuttler, and start at Crazy Cook.  Good to hear the road walk south 
>>> of Silver City has been eliminated. 
>>> North of Silver City is the worst route choice on the trail.  1)  
>>> The official trail is long and dry, it had fire damage which has 
>>> been reported to be cleaned up, but still gets almost no thur hiker 
>>> traffic.  It is possibly a reasonable option, but I can't recommend 
>>> it unless better water info becomes available. 
>>> 2)  The Ley route has a horrible bushwack UP Tadpole Ridge.  This 
>>> route should be avoided by any sane hiker.  It has the advantage and 
>>> disadvantage of many fords of the Lower Gila (southern part).  These 
>>> fords may be ok in the fall, but are an extra day of wet feet, going 
>>> upstream, in colder/higher water for nobo's.  3)  Many people take 
>>> one of the road (Wolfe) routes until north (northeast) of Silver 
>>> City and then take the trail over the top of Tadpole Ridge (avoiding 
>>> the bushwack).  This sets up the cutoff mentality and you can save 
>>> further effort on: the Creed cutoff, the Mack Inn cutoff, and the 
>>> Anaconda cutoff.  4)  I followed Boston and Cubby's route out of 
>>> Silver City to Doc Campbell's:  I followed the road out of Silver 
>>> City past the Monastery, picked up the official trail which goes a 
>>> little east, then came back to the road to Doc Campbell's on the 
>>> Military trail.  There is still 5 to 7 miles of road walk (down 
>>> hill) at the end.  Also, there is a new building that will make 
>>> private property a big issue around the Monastery.  If you do not 
>>> take the short cut past the Monastery, and especially if you take 
>>> the official trail all the way from Silver City, you have a very dry 
>>> day and a half. 
>>> The best training is to have my fellow Philadelphian and fellow Jim 
>>> pour you a pint.  He now does it at The Anderson on the Black Isle.  
>>> I'll be there in August.
>>> Melanie:  The weather window is between southern CO and Glacier, and 
>>> last year the window was very tight.  So, skipping CO does not do 
>>> much good unless you start late and do NM in the hotter and later 
>>> spring.  It might be better to start in Glacier at the end of the 
>>> sobo season, ca July 4, and then skip CO in Sept, going right to 
>>> NM.  I flipped up to South Pass City and hiked south thru CO.  You 
>>> could get off at Steamboat? or much more easily at Estes Park, 
>>> (hiking over the divide in Rock Mt Nat. Pk, which I have also done.) 
>>> Rambler
>>> >>
>>> > 1. Re: 2009 CDT hikers - crazy cook or columbus? (Brian Dickson)
>>> > 2. Re: 2009 CDT hikers - crazy cook or columbus? (Bob)
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> >
>>> > Message: 1
>>> > Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 13:00:01 +0000 (GMT)
>>> > From: Brian Dickson <briansolar1 at yahoo.co.uk>
>>> > Subject: Re: [Cdt-l] 2009 CDT hikers - crazy cook or columbus?
>>> > To: cdt-l at backcountry.net
>>> > Message-ID: <2750.13511.qm at web27201.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>
>>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>> >
>>> > Myself, Brian and my wife, Martina are aiming to hike northbound 
>>> this year too. We live in Scotland and are flying into Denver on 
>>> April 13th and aim to start around?April 20th from either crazy cook 
>>> or columbus NM. We haven't sorted out how we will get there yet!
>>> > ?
>>> ...> ?
>>> > Brian Dickson
>>> > Black Isle, Scotland
>>> > www.pbase.com/briansolar1
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > --- On Tue, 6/1/09, Melanie Simmerman <jennylind50 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > From: Melanie Simmerman <jennylind50 at yahoo.com>
>>> > Subject: [Cdt-l] 2009 CDT hikers
>>> > To: cdt-l at backcountry.net
>>> > Date: Tuesday, 6 January, 2009, 7:49 PM
>>> >
>>> > Hello, 2009 CDTers
>>> > I'm wondering who all is hiking this year and in which direction? I am
>>> > planning a northbound, sort of, hike. At any rate, I'm starting in NM
>>> > (haven't finalized which terminus-Cook Monument or Columbus) in 
>>> late April
>>> > sometime - don't have the exact date yet.
>>> >
>>> > I've pretty much done Colorado section-hiking and don't plan to 
>>> re-hike
>>> > what I've done, which means either flipping up to Glacier and 
>>> going south,
>>> > or if possible continuing northbound in Wyoming (if that's 
>>> possible?). Has
>>> > anyone out there done that? What are conditions usually like in 
>>> Wyoming in early
>>> > June? It would be kind of nice to be in Glacier late summer/early 
>>> fall and not
>>> > in snow.
>>> >
>>> ....
>>> >
>>> > Hope to see some of you out there!
>>> > Melanie ("Lemstar" AT96, PCT02)
>>> >
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