[Cdt-l] Cdt-l Digest, Vol 26, Issue 6

Ellie sidselliott at aol.com
Mon Nov 2 18:53:01 CST 2009


I think the bbq near Hachita is a great idea.  I believe communication and raising awareness can probably eliminate a lot of misunderstandings.

I was picked up by 2 ranchers in WY near Encampment.  We rode around looking at cows and their movements for a couple of hours before heading for the road and trail.  The ranchers had been opposed to the CDT being routed through the area.  They felt it was not safe, and were also concerned about libility issues.

By the time we parted ways, they understood more about the trail and hikers, and I their perspectives.  The rancher most disapproving even asked where she should cache some water for hikers.  They ended up being one of my best experiences.

Ellie
Ellie Thomas

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   1. harassment of hikers (ks1007 at aol.com)
   2. Re: harassment of hikers (eyakel at earthlink.net)


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Subject: [Cdt-l] harassment of hikers
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even with hikers coming into contact with ranchers I'm not hearing anything about anyone being injured or forcibly removed from the land -  when I'm in the desert on my 4 wheeler I wear a gun - ranchers do to - it's a necessity - they also wear them to intimidate unsuspecting people - now if they pull them out and point them at you as in robocop's situation that's a different story and in southern NM (on the columbus route) you should report it to me or local law enforcement - I am a retired peace officer - that's why they don't intimidate me - sometimes you may run into ranch hands that like to throw their weight around

okay now - another topic while in NM - we (trail angels) have a great network of communication from grants south to the border - when a hiker leaves grants heading south robin emails me with their trail name and when they left (if they are doing the columbus route) - I then email julie in the mimbres to let her know that she has a person or persons coming with their trail names - julie will either have them call me or she will call me to let me know when they have left the mimbres  - this way I know we can expect them in 4 - 5 days - we're hoping that this adds some to the hikers comfort of knowing that someone is looking out for them while in untamed NM - this is a necessity especially for the nobo's in the hot weather in the desert - if we don't hear from them we become concerned - hikers - please call us and let us know that you have made it to the Deming area even if you are not going to avail yourselves of our hospitality - as I understand it NM has some of the best trai
 l angels - I hope you hikers don't take this in a negative manner
side note - julie the one that left your place most recently is okay and finished his hike - just happened to see him today when we were on our way to columbus 
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