[Cdt-l] AZT to GDT route - can we see the KML file?

Jerry Brown bearcreek at wic.net
Fri Dec 17 18:41:58 CST 2010



Very Cool that you are coming down into the San Juans towards Silverton.
You'll get to do one the nicest places on the CT/CDT - Cataract Ridge.  When
you hit the CDT you will have hiked close to 2000 miles in my estimation.  I
wouldn't be too worried about this season's snow except in AZ.  Moab gets
pretty warm beginning in early  June. That will probably be your biggest
environmental challenge...


If your Spot update proves to be problematic you might check out
Trackleaders.  We have been running a continuous Spot while on the CDT and
it works most of the time.  (not always - the Spot is not totally reliable
and we occasionally have days when it just doesn't work very well)  


best wishes,


Jerry Brown

GPS Mapping Specialist

The Continental Divide Trail Alliance


From: cdt-l-bounces at backcountry.net [mailto:cdt-l-bounces at backcountry.net]
On Behalf Of Benjamin Mayberry
Sent: Friday, December 17, 2010 2:00 PM
To: Brett
Cc: cdt-l
Subject: Re: [Cdt-l] AZT to GDT route - can we see the KML file?


I agree that northbound is the psychologically easier direction of travel,
in terms of reaching the natural conclusions of several trails and also
because I can start my hike much earlier than if I were heading southbound.
Impatience is the worst.


I could send you the file or there are two other options for viewing the
route the way you're describing. On my own site, I have a page that allows
you to toggle layers. It's at http://benmayberry.net/spot/map.php?trip=4.
I'll be carrying a SPOT and once I'm actually hiking, this is where the
updates will be posted to. It's still under development to some extent so I
haven't linked to it anywhere on the site - once I'm hiking, it'll be linked
to on my site's home page. Your second option to is head to
www.postholer.com/gmap and toggle the trail to "AZT to GDT". If you'd still
like to download the file you can go to
http://benmayberry.net/azt_to_gdt3.kmz, which will immediately prompt a


La Nina will make this an interesting balance act. I need to leave the
Colorado Plateau before it becomes so hot and arid that hiking is nearly
impossible, but enter the Rockies late enough that I won't have hundreds of
miles of snow in front of me.


Thanks for the support,



On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 11:09 AM, Brett <blisterfree at yahoo.com> wrote:

The bad thing about an "AZT to GDT" route is that it skips all of
beautiful New Mexico in favor of the much more extreme terrain of
Arizona and Utah.

The great thing about an "AZT to GDT" route is that it skips all of
beautiful New Mexico in favor of the much more extreme terrain of
Arizona and Utah!

Bottom line, this trip is bound to be one heckuva wild ride.
Psychologically I do think northbound would be the easier direction of
travel, since you follow the Arizona Trail and Hayduke Trail to their
natural conclusions, whereas southbound you're forced to prematurely
abandon your extended love affair with the Continental Divide Trail, and
the Divide in general.

I daresay my own ambitions for a "Great Southwest Circle" seem downright
tame by comparison. The "GSC" is still in the dreaming phase, though it
appears this AZT to GDT route may have already planned out that vexing
Hayduke to CDT connection that would be needed to link up these two
trails with the GET and AZT to form a big loop of the region.

Is there any chance we can get ahold of the KML file for the AZT to GDT?
The Google Earth interface is great, but with the file we can overlay it
on street and topo maps in order to see exactly where this puppy is
headed. Note how Postholer.com lets you toggle between map types, and we
can do that sort of thing in a program called TopoFusion as well.

Thanks, and best of success. Keep an eye toward water conditions in the
Southwest, as we're in a persistent La Nina that is likely to spell
drier-than-average conditions this spring across Arizona, in
particular.  (see the US Drought Monitor website)

Lastly, I'm really excited for you. The sense of anticipation before
embarking on a long route of your own making is almost otherwordly, and
regardless of the outcome you won't emerge from the experience the same
person. It's true for your first long hike, and it becomes true again
when you're willing to voluntarily plunge into the unknown. And it's
true, because all those early feelings of wonder and doubt and joy and
fear and failure and success return once more, and the trail and nature
herself become your master. Expect to play the role of apprentice;
mapping a route and promoting it feels like empowerment but is actually
a recipe for exposing oneself to the four winds of fate. And it is the
greatest motivator for perseverance in the face of challenge I know of.

- blisterfree

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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2010 12:17:56 -0800
> From: Benjamin Mayberry<benmayberry at gmail.com>
> Subject: [Cdt-l] Trip notification/Shameless self promotion
> To: cdt-l<cdt-l at backcountry.net>
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> A few months from now I'll be heading out on a 4,250 mile thru-hike of
> I'm calling the "AZT to GDT Route". It's a combination of four different
> long-distance hiking routes that runs from the U.S.-Mexico border at the
> Arizona Trail's southern terminus to deep in the Canadian Rockies at the
> northern terminus of the Great Divide Trail. Its largest section is along
> the Continental Divide Trail, which it follows for about 1,800 miles from
> southern Colorado to Waterton Lakes.
> I figure everyone on the CDT-l might be interested in seeing this since it
> is, as far as I know, a totally new route that incorporates the CDT. I've
> really enjoyed reading about hikers that find new ways to make use of
> trails (i.e. not just hiking from end to end like everyone else - no
> intended to any thru-hikers) and hope that others will find my hike
> interesting for the same reason. There's lots of info on my hike at
> http://benmayberry.net/adventures/azt-to-gdt and I'll be posting updates
> there once I get started.
> If this doesn't interest you, I apologize for the spam. I've spent enough
> time on the PCT-l and CDT-l to see worse crimes committed than shameless
> self promotion, so I assumed this would be permissible.
> Happy holidays,
> Ben Mayberry
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