[Cdt-l] Wet foot = Cold foot / vapour barriers etc

Marshall Karon m.karon at comcast.net
Sun Jan 17 13:38:51 CST 2010

Regarding non-river crossing with wet, cold, freezing weather: I found that
my shoes were really too small for the extra sealskins and normal socks.
Removing the socks and just wearing the sealskins left my feet cold but dry.
Plastic bags tore very easily and left my feet wet from perspiration - and
thus still cold. I still have not found a good solution. I think that if you
are consistently in cold weather, larger shoes, normal socks, and sealskins
might work. 


Regarding river crossings - normally you need something on your feet to
protect them and give you traction. I normally remove my socks and inner
soles and go through with just the shoes on. If the distance is long and the
water very cold, my feet will hurt. It really is bad if you need to cross at
the end of the day and there is freezing weather. Unless you bring your wet
shoes into your shelter/sleeping bag (wrapped in extra plastic bags), they
will be frozen in the morning. And hiking in ice cubes is really is


Marshall Karon 
Portland, OR 


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A system that worked for me in river crossings is this:  I would back a pair
of extra sturdy insoles.  At a river crossing I would remove my boots and
insert the insoles into my socks, then wade across.  On the other side I
would wring the socks out and hang them on the back of my pack with the wet
insoles, slip on a pair of dry socks and boots and keep on going.  The
process is tiring on multiple crossings and I just plunge in with boots on.


-RedDoug in Michigan
----- Original Message -----
From: "Andrew West" <mountain739 at yahoo.com>
To: Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2010 11:50:30 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: [Cdt-l] Wet foot = Cold foot / vapour barriers etc

Hi Guys

Thanks for your thoughts on the vapour barrier / wet / cold foot problem

Its seems the consensus is to use


plastic bags and/or sealskins (or some similar material)


I must admit I was using bags in Washington when I was hiking with wet feet
day after day. They did help me reach the next supply point but I guess my
problems were made worse by using a non waterproof shoe. If I was using
goretex runners with my big gaitors maybe my feet would have been a bit
drier and not go so sore. 

As to the cold water crossings I guess I will just have to do as
before....grit my teeth...emerge on the far bank and do some silly dancing
to warm up! Yeah a couple of bin liners could help here although may give
more drag in the current?


One river crossing in the Sierra....early morning, I heard D&A crossing the
water and Dan calling out in pain. I said to myself..'yeah what a
sissy!'.....when I crossed myself, I quickly started calling out in
pain......man that was some seriously cold water (and yes I am a sissy)


Best of luck


Dryfoot  / Andy West



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