[Cdt-l] Cdt-l Digest, Vol 30, Issue 33

Ellie sidselliott at aol.com
Mon Mar 29 23:08:43 CDT 2010


I sang and carried my bear spray last year, and saw 2 adult griz and one sow and 2 cubs.  They were all either north of the winds or in Yellowstone.  One young male bluff charged in Yellowstone when I startled him (second scariest hiking moment of the trail).  When I do the trail again, I will definitely have my spray for the Winds, Yellowstone and Glacier.

That aside,  the CDT was THE BEST of the three for me.  Everyone have a great hike!
Ellie Thomas

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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: grizzlies (R Smith)
   2. Re: MSR Pro (Matthew Edwards)
   3.  grizzlies (Paul Stabach)
   4. Re: MSR Pro and Iodine (Patrick Beggan)
   5. Re: So who is hiking this year: starting date,    direction &
      location (Walkmoore1 at aol.com)
   6. Re: grizzlies (Jonathan Ley)
   7. Re: Fwd:  Contact Border Patrol (Jonathan Ley)


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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 11:39:54 -0700
From: "R Smith" <ronyon at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Cdt-l] grizzlies
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I wouldn't worry about the griz. During my whole hike through GNP I only
encountered two on the trail, and only one in camp. -Ron

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On Behalf Of Jack Haskel
Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 8:09 AM
To: CDT
Subject: Re: [Cdt-l] So who is hiking this year: starting date, direction &
location

Leaving around June 15th going SOBO. Walking alone, but would rather group
up. Especially for the griz, not looking forward to "talking to myself" to
keep them aware. Can't wait!



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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 12:01:30 -0700 (PDT)
From: Matthew Edwards <hetchhetchyman at aol.com>
Subject: Re: [Cdt-l] MSR Pro
To: cdt-l at backcountry.net
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Thanks for the info Dylan. I keep having this back and forth argument with myself regarding my filter. The MSR Pro is nearly a pound when it's packed away wet after use. Lot's of folks just used Aqua Mira on the PCT last year.
I like the idea of Polar Pure being lighter, more concentrated and not chlorine based. Unfortunately they won't sell Polar Pure to us in the "Peoples Republic Of California" (PUN Intended). 
I had to fight the urge to buy the entire stock of Polar Pure from a store in Washington last year!
Anyhow, I am guessing you used a bandana as a prefilter and treated with Polar Pure and added Crystal Light etc.
I sure like the simplicity and much lighter weight of that strategy.. Psst.. Anyone know where to get the "contraband" Polar Pure in CA?
-Iceaxe
PS. Oh Yea.. They don't let us buy sil-nylon tents in CA either. I feel so safe and protected here in Cali! ;)

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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 15:03:08 -0400
From: Paul Stabach <stabach at hotmail.com>
Subject: [Cdt-l]  grizzlies
To: <cdt-l at backcountry.net>
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Hey Everyone,
I am also thinking about going SOBO the middle of June.
The thought of a grizzly, even once, freaks me out. 
I shouldn't say this because I don't want to extend the fear factor, but I know a friend of a friend, who's girlfriend was mauled dead by a grizzle in BC Canada. He's now a single parent.
anyways, I still want to do the thru hike, or at least start it. I am pretty comfortable hiking alone or in a group. I did the PCT in 03. My trail name was DNA which I realize now sounds a lot like Dan and Anna DnA. I am not particular about trail names so for now I would like to just go as Paul.
Hopefully, I could hike with someone in Glacier. I would like that.

Paul 

                      
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 13:36:12 -0700
From: Patrick Beggan <meta474 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Cdt-l] MSR Pro and Iodine
To: Matthew Edwards <hetchhetchyman at aol.com>, cdt-l at backcountry.net
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Polar Pure is available on the internet, Ice Axe -- But make sure you try some before you settle on it as your chemical treatment. If you think chlorine tests bad, wait until you try iodine-based water treatments. I tried to use polar pure on the PCT in 2008 and the first time I had to use it I immediately regretted buying it. However, not everyone (but many) shares my intense distaste for iodine.

Here's a link to amazon: http://www.amazon.com/Polar-Pure-Water-Disinfectant/dp/B00068M3HY

I also just noticed this, randomly, while getting that link for you: 

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000OR115W/ref=pd_lpo_k2_dp_sr_1?pf_rd_p=486539851&pf_rd_s=lpo-top-stripe-1&pf_rd_t=201&pf_rd_i=B00068M3HY&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=18S5NMV9CQ02AJ85A4N3


On Mar 29, 2010, at 12:01 PM, Matthew Edwards wrote:

> Thanks for the info Dylan. I keep having this back and forth argument with myself regarding my filter. The MSR Pro is nearly a pound when it's packed away wet after use. Lot's of folks just used Aqua Mira on the PCT last year.
> I like the idea of Polar Pure being lighter, more concentrated and not chlorine based. Unfortunately they won't sell Polar Pure to us in the "Peoples Republic Of California" (PUN Intended). 
> I had to fight the urge to buy the entire stock of Polar Pure from a store in Washington last year!
> Anyhow, I am guessing you used a bandana as a prefilter and treated with Polar Pure and added Crystal Light etc.
> I sure like the simplicity and much lighter weight of that strategy.. Psst.. Anyone know where to get the "contraband" Polar Pure in CA?
> -Iceaxe
> PS. Oh Yea.. They don't let us buy sil-nylon tents in CA either. I feel so safe and protected here in Cali! ;)
> 
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> Sent on the go from my Peek
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 21:54:28 EDT
From: Walkmoore1 at aol.com
Subject: Re: [Cdt-l] So who is hiking this year: starting date,
    direction & location
To: norcalhiker at gmail.com, cdt-l at backcountry.net
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My husband, Randy "Macon Tracks", and I plan to start SOBO around June  15 
(we plan to be at the park a couple of days before that)...the only glitch  
right now is that Randy has a broken foot!!!!  We're crossing our  fingers 
that the bone is healing on schedule.  Janie "Not  Yet"
 
 
In a message dated 3/29/2010 11:09:59 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
norcalhiker at gmail.com writes:

Leaving  around June 15th going SOBO. Walking alone, but would rather group 
up.  Especially for the griz, not looking forward to "talking to myself" to 
keep  them aware. Can't  wait!
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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 20:37:57 -0700
From: Jonathan Ley <jonathan at phlumf.com>
Subject: Re: [Cdt-l] grizzlies
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That's very very rare... and in most cases, with some knowledge you can 
move the odds of that sort of thing to basically zero. You're much more 
likely to get struck by lightning, or fall off a cliff, or get hit by a 
car while hitching, or get bit by a rattler, or get swept away by a 
river, or be attacked by a swarm of yellowjackets... hmm, maybe this 
list isn't helping. Good luck out there!

-Jonathan

Paul Stabach wrote:
> Hey Everyone,
> I am also thinking about going SOBO the middle of June.
> The thought of a grizzly, even once, freaks me out.
> I shouldn't say this because I don't want to extend the fear factor, 
> but I know a friend of a friend, who's girlfriend was mauled dead by a 
> grizzle in BC Canada. He's now a single parent.
> anyways, I still want to do the thru hike, or at least start it. I am 
> pretty comfortable hiking alone or in a group. I did the PCT in 03. My 
> trail name was DNA which I realize now sounds a lot like Dan and Anna 
> DnA. I am not particular about trail names so for now I would like to 
> just go as Paul.
> Hopefully, I could hike with someone in Glacier. I would like that.
>
> Paul
>
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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 20:43:35 -0700
From: Jonathan Ley <jonathan at phlumf.com>
Subject: Re: [Cdt-l] Fwd:  Contact Border Patrol
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You'd think they would have some kind of morning meeting and it'd come 
up. Or, there would be some chatter over the radio or something. Anyway, 
I guess it doesn't matter... even if they know there are hikers out 
there, they'd still have to come check you out to verify who you are. I 
did meet at least one BP who knew all about hikers, and asked me a bunch 
of questions (he couldn't grasp why anyone would want to hike the CDT... 
poor guy).

Frank Gilliland wrote:
> Yep, I called, they didn't want any information from me, I offered my 
> name and what I looked like and even tried to tell them what shoes I 
> would be leaving tracks with, I got a thankx for calling and "click".
>
> Then on my 2nd nite from Crazy Cook, at 2 am two Border Patrol 
> Officers with flood lights on full blast, drove full speed up to my 
> tent (along the well marked trail) interviewing me as if I was doing 
> something wrong.  They kept asking what I was doing.  I kept pointing 
> to the CDT sign and said "I was hiking the CDT and was camping here 
> along the trail".
>
> Strange that they had no knowledge of the trail even though they were 
> "driving" on it with reflective signs every few hundred feet!
>
> They concluded their visit by saying "don't do anything illegal"
>
> Don't get me wrong, I respect the hard job that the Border Patrol 
> does.  But, I felt like a crook in my own Country.
>
> Just remember be very polite and keep answers short with "No Sir" and 
> "Yes Sir".  And as advised earlier, this is not the section of trail 
> to be carrying any kind of questionable substances!
>
> Oh, I also had two low fly "bys" by helicopters, I just waived.....
>
> The trail was fun to walk, and despite the 2am visit, I will defiantly 
> walk it again!!!!
>
> StarMan
>
>
> *****************
>
> I used to contact the BP about hikers in the area so when I would run into one (a BP) I would ask them if they had heard about the hikers - they said no - there is no communication between BP higher echelon and the grunts in the field - don't waste your time - they will know you are in the area by the new footprints they find - 
>
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> el coyote
> Keith
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