[Cdt-l] Embrace the

Tue Nov 9 14:13:21 CST 2010

Thanks for bringing up the annoying "Embrace the Brutality" which is emblazoned across the Yogi Guide.  All trails are tough in their own way but the CDT is very doable.  We often Embraced, not the brutality, but the beauty, solitude, lack of trail, new friends and kindness of strangers.  

The "Embrace the Brutality" was a running joke for us because the saying is such a joke.  We came up with "Embrace the Stupidity" to deal with the random signs, trail junctions etc.  Although this or any pithy saying doesn't do a trail justice. 

The Yogi guide is great but at times it makes the trail seem like something unattainable--if your planning consider this basis. 
Dave

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> 1. Fwd: Triple Crown Chicas (ks1007 at aol.com)
> 2. Fwd: CDT CHICAS! (ks1007 at aol.com)
> 3. Re: senior moment (Jackie McDonnell)
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> Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 12:08:38 -0500 (EST)
> From: ks1007 at aol.com
> Subject: [Cdt-l] Fwd: Triple Crown Chicas
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> there is a young man Li Brannfors that completed the AT and CDT in one season in I believe 07
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> el coyote
> Keith and Mary
> Trail Angels
> Deming, NM
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim and_or Ginny Owen <spiriteagle99 at hotmail.com>
> To: rick.ostheimer <rick.ostheimer at sbcglobal.net>; cdt-l <cdt-l at backcountry.net>
> Sent: Mon, Nov 8, 2010 1:38 pm
> Subject: Re: [Cdt-l] Triple Crown Chicas
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> 
> Rick - 
> Not saying anything about Sage, but the only "brutality" on the CDT is what you bring with you - 
> or bring on yourself by your own actions. 
> 
> Jim
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> http://www.spiriteaglehome.com/
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> > Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 10:21:31 -0800
> > From: rick.ostheimer at sbcglobal.net
> > To: cdt-l at backcountry.net
> > Subject: [Cdt-l] Triple Crown Chicas
> > 
> > Well, while she probably isn't the youngest, Sage Clegg, who completed the PCT in 09 and the CDT earlier this year gets my nomination for the "toughest"! Not satisfied with "Embracing the Brutality" of the CDT and squeezing until it gave in to her will, she's now over halfway through a Sobo AT thruhike pounding out high 20-mile days. Awesome! 
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> Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 12:13:12 -0500 (EST)
> From: ks1007 at aol.com
> Subject: [Cdt-l] Fwd: CDT CHICAS!
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> sage did the columbus route and stayed with us - we enjoyed her company a lot
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> 
> el coyote
> Keith and Mary
> Trail Angels
> Deming, NM
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> From: hetchhetchyman <hetchhetchyman at aol.com>
> To: cdt-l <cdt-l at backcountry.net>
> Sent: Mon, Nov 8, 2010 8:06 pm
> Subject: [Cdt-l] CDT CHICAS!
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> 
> 
> Well, while she probably isn't the youngest, Sage Clegg, who completed the PCT 
> in 09 and the CDT earlier this year gets my nomination for the "toughest"! Not 
> satisfied with "Embracing the Brutality" of the CDT and squeezing until it gave 
> in to her will, she's now over halfway through a Sobo AT thruhike pounding out 
> high 20-mile days. Awesome! 
> 
> Rick "Handelbar" Ostheimer
> 
> I second Handlebar's sentiment.
> I first heard of Sage on the CDT-L. She seemed a long way off and behind me. Next thing I knew she was right there in the Bob Marshall Wilderness..Alone, Grizzly bears be damned. I was fortunate enough to keep pace with her for a while. My plan was to jump into her arms for safety should we be assaulted by Grizzlies!
> Seriously, Sage was completely in thru-hiker mode as we proceeded after dark to hike towards Glacier one night. She did not even use a headlamp! I will never forget when we were straining to read that sign.. the one that said: "BIG HOLE AHEAD". Sure enough there was a bottomless pit right smack dab in the middle of the trail.
> I will also never forget that packrat.. the one that stole one of Sage's socks and took it down into it's den. Damn that was funny!
> This Hiker is FEARLESS! Sage Clegg gets my vote for "most inspiring hiker" met on trail.
> Crikey, she just finished the CDT and went right out onto the AT less than a month later. It's like.. gonna be winter and all that.. Doesn't bother Sage.
> Oh Yea, I thought I had the smallest, lightest shelter on the CDT.. until I met Sage with her tiny, 4 ounce, whatever the hell that thing was. 
> My favorite quote from Sage: "I was Hungry, cold, and tired.. Now I am warm, dry, and full of Chocolate!"
> Hey Sage.. Hope you see lots of Pink Unicorns! (Inside joke)
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> -Iceaxe
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> Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 11:27:49 -0600
> From: Jackie McDonnell <yogihikes at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Cdt-l] senior moment
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> Keith - A couple quick corrections to your post:
> 
> I have not "removed the caveat" from my book about your smoking. In fact,
> there has never been anything in my book about your place.
> 
> I have not printed anything about a restaurant named "Irma's" in Deming, so
> there's no way I could have recommended it.
> 
> yogi
> 
> On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 11:02 AM, <ks1007 at aol.com> wrote:
> 
> > my bad - I had a senior moment - snorkel and frogs are about 10 days out -
> > carbo, masa, and Jb got in yesterday and chose to stay in town due to the
> > fact that we smoke - apparently yogi has removed the caveat from her book
> > about the fact of smoking (we do cut our consumption when we have hikers)
> > and our cats - it is fairly important to contact us when you get into town -
> > I have new places for water that have not yet been published - if you take
> > wolf's route you will miss the BBQ place which is acclaimed as the best for
> > hundreds of miles by hikers - just ask hawkeye - kombucha - heaps - DIY and
> > rolling thunder - they finished the trail and went back to it since it was
> > so good - if you take wolf's route south on country club to rock hound rd
> > east you have many miles of road walking with no water sources - if you take
> > ley's route passing our place for water you will still have road walking but
> > at least you walk on the side of the road away from traffic - then on to dry
> > gulch for great BBQ where I have worked out a deal with the owners that
> > hikers get $1 off any sandwich - they are closed on monday
> > water may not be much of an issue for sobo's since it is so cool out but
> > it's very important for nobo's - there is a new water source before you get
> > to rock hound state park - very friendly and nice people - you can even go
> > into their yard for water if they are not home - robert is talking about
> > running a "hard" line to the street with a faucet for hikers - when you get
> > farther south to the junction of hiway 11 and waterloo rd there is no water
> > at borderline or the "mormon" house - you have to go 1/2 mile east to willie
> > pritchards to get water - this is a new site that I just secured a week ago
> > a place to stay in deming is the american inn - it has new ownership and
> > they have totally refurbished the rooms - it's priced at $25 a night - of
> > course, you can still stay with us and I will drive back into town for meals
> > (I'm always hungry), the post office and resupply - yogi suggests irma's for
> > mexican food - I suggest el mirador which is right across the street from
> > the american inn - for the best italian food for 200 miles there is palma's
> > on main street - they are closed sunday and monday
> > so there's some information on deming
> > *el coyote*
> > *Keith and Mary*
> > *Trail Angels*
> > *Deming, NM*
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ks1007 <ks1007 at aol.com>
> > To: cdt-l <cdt-l at backcountry.net>
> > Sent: Mon, Nov 8, 2010 9:43 am
> > Subject: [Cdt-l] Fwd: Cdt-l Digest, Vol 38, Issue 4
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> > snorkel and frogs are supposed to be at our place either today or tomorrow
> > - then 2 1/2 days to the border
> >
> > *el coyote*
> > *Keith and Mary*
> > *Trail Angels*
> > *Deming, NM*
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: dave gantz <davegantz at gmail.com>
> > To: Moynihan <mary.moynihan at gmail.com>
> > Cc: cdt-l <cdt-l at backcountry.net>
> > Sent: Sun, Nov 7, 2010 11:37 am
> > Subject: Re: [Cdt-l] Cdt-l Digest, Vol 38, Issue 4
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> > I do believe that Snorkel is about to or has just recently completed her
> > triple crown. Of course, I wouldn't reveal a lady's age without asking her
> > first...
> >
> > -Gantz
> >
> > On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 10:54 AM, Moynihan <mary.moynihan at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Re: Triple Crown
> >>
> >> I have been trying to determine this as well and have not had much
> >> luck. The reality is there are very few people in general who have
> >> completed such a challenge, and fewer that are women, even fewer solo
> >> and the fewest young.
> >> Of course it always depends on wether the woman has been recognized
> >> with ALDHA or has stayed annonymous. Greg Hummel with ALDHA West
> >> forwarded me this link which indicates Salamander at 25 completed the
> >> Triple Crown according to the article.
> >>
> >>
> >> http://www.americanhiking.org/uploadedFiles/News_Room/Women%20Going%20the%20Distance%20Fall%202010.pdf
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I personally have been trying to determine the number of solo women in
> >> the 20's who have achieved the Triple Crown. I'll be setting foot on
> >> the CDT next year at 28 to complete the third leg as a solo female
> >> hiker and would love more information for my own writings! Any
> >> information helps!
> >>
> >> mary
> >>
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> >> > 3. Fwd: Triple crown? (ks1007 at aol.com)
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> >> > Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2010 13:02:56 -0700 (PDT)
> >> > From: Eric Whte <ericshawwhite at yahoo.com>
> >> > Subject: [Cdt-l] bear lovers
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> >> > For all of you CDT hikers who have your own opinion about grizzley bears
> >> check
> >> > out this link,
> >> >
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> >> http://www.kpax.com/news/grizzly-versus-bison-the-rest-of-the-story/?EricWhite
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> >> > From: Norcalhiker <norcalhiker at gmail.com>
> >> > Subject: [Cdt-l] Triple crown?
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> >> > Who is the youngest woman to have hiked the triple crown?
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> >> > Date: Sat, 6 Nov 2010 11:56:28 -0400 (EDT)
> >> > From: ks1007 at aol.com
> >> > Subject: [Cdt-l] Fwd: Triple crown?
> >> > To: cdt-l at backcountry.net
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> >> > good question
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > el coyote
> >> > Keith and Mary
> >> > Trail Angels
> >> > Deming, NM
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
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> >> > To: CDT <cdt-l at backcountry.net>
> >> > Sent: Sat, Nov 6, 2010 8:43 am
> >> > Subject: [Cdt-l] Triple crown?
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> >> >
> >> > Who is the youngest woman to have hiked the triple crown?
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