[Cdt-l] Civility on the CDT-L

Tue Jul 10 19:47:02 CDT 2012

  longhiker, perhaps you can read Cupcake's original post again. It was not a malicious attack on the MWA. he simply questioned the policy of bicycle and motorized use, and made it clear HE doesn't like it and questions the long-term impact of wheeled uses, both human and machine. In your opinion it is misguided -- that's fine -- but it wasn't rude or inappropriate. I bet lots of CDT supporters struggle with the bicycle/motorcycle issue.
  I would also bet the MWA struggles with it as well, and it's doing the best it can.
Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: Andrew <longhiker.pct at gmail.com>
To: 'Mark Nienstaedt' <mark.nienstaedt at gmail.com>; cdt-l <cdt-l at backcountry.net>
Sent: Tue, Jul 10, 2012 8:30 pm
Subject: Re: [Cdt-l] Civility on the CDT-L

It was not me that started this …    It was started by a totally misguided, malicious attack against one of the resources that is actually doing something to improve the CDT.    

AJ (longhiker)
longhiker.pct at gmail.com

From: Mark Nienstaedt [mailto:mark.nienstaedt at gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2012 6:05 PM
To: cdt-l at backcountry.net
Cc: longhiker.pct at gmail.com
Subject: Civility on the CDT-L

Longhiker I'm sure you are a fine person.  You should check your impulses to tell other hikers to "Get over it", "Stay home", & etc., and leave off sneering about "philosophers" on the CDT-L.  This is a public forum and the ethic ought to be civility.  I think your substantive point that the Montana Wilderness Association is a valued organization and deserving of hiker support was a good one.  But you were steadily undermining its impact with the extraneous comments.  We all belong within the hiker community and should feel welcome on trail.  

We all support avoiding user conflicts.  It's too late in the game to keep motorized recreationalists off public lands.  But it is not too late to keep them off a silent, hiker dedicated CDT.  That ought to be our common goal.

Buffalo Jump Sly!  

AT '02, JMT '03, LT '05, PCT '11 & aspiring to the CDT 2013...

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-----Original Message-----
From: Andrew <longhiker.pct at gmail.com>
To: 'Mark Nienstaedt' <mark.nienstaedt at gmail.com>; cdt-l <cdt-l at backcountry.net>
Sent: Tue, Jul 10, 2012 8:30 pm
Subject: Re: [Cdt-l] Civility on the CDT-L

It was not me that started this …    It was started by a totally misguided, malicious attack against one of the resources that is actually doing something to improve the CDT.    

AJ (longhiker)
longhiker.pct at gmail.com

From: Mark Nienstaedt [mailto:mark.nienstaedt at gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2012 6:05 PM
To: cdt-l at backcountry.net
Cc: longhiker.pct at gmail.com
Subject: Civility on the CDT-L

Longhiker I'm sure you are a fine person.  You should check your impulses to tell other hikers to "Get over it", "Stay home", & etc., and leave off sneering about "philosophers" on the CDT-L.  This is a public forum and the ethic ought to be civility.  I think your substantive point that the Montana Wilderness Association is a valued organization and deserving of hiker support was a good one.  But you were steadily undermining its impact with the extraneous comments.  We all belong within the hiker community and should feel welcome on trail.  

We all support avoiding user conflicts.  It's too late in the game to keep motorized recreationalists off public lands.  But it is not too late to keep them off a silent, hiker dedicated CDT.  That ought to be our common goal.

Buffalo Jump Sly!  

AT '02, JMT '03, LT '05, PCT '11 & aspiring to the CDT 2013...

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