[Cdt-l] yearly

[Jonathan Ley]

Even if it is a joke, or based on bad info... It still matters, just as a matter of courtesy, as Bob mentioned. 

If you get into an argument with a rancher, when you're on their land, or leased land... You will lose the argument no matter how many facts are on your side. This goes for more than just this issue. Just try convincing a local person anywhere (worldwide) that you as an outsider know more about X than they do. It rarely works. 

Aside from all that, who in the world would try to get clean in a stock pond - yuk!

Jonathan 

On Apr 16, 2013, at 11:47 AM, "Bob Bankhead" <wandering_bob at comcast.net> wrote:

> Having been a cattle rancher, I can say I’ve never seen cattle turn down any water source, even ones I wouldn’t touch. That said, dirt and floaties don’t bother them. Now if too many people bathed in them, the soap and body oils would foster bacteria and algae growth, which takes time to clean out, to say nothing of the cost of the water to refill.
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> People have died violently over western water rights. Courtesy demands your compliance. Hikers NEED the ranchers’ good will; ranches do not need hikers.
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> From: cdt-l-bounces at backcountry.net [mailto:cdt-l-bounces at backcountry.net] On Behalf Of Ron
> Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 10:52 AM
> To: ks1007 at aol.com; Continental Divide Trail
> Subject: Re: [Cdt-l] yearly
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> i still think a rancher was pulling your leg about having to refill the cattle stock ponds. i can't imagine cattle give a crap, given some of the stock tanks i've seen. other, probably better reasons not to swim in the tanks is 1) other people will be using it for drinking water, and 2) it is being disrespectful of the courtesy extended by the ranchers letting us get drinking water from their tanks -- which is probably the main reason the ranchers are pissed. Sort of like swimming uninvited in your backyard pool. -Ron
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> On Apr 16, 2013, at 9:52 AM, ks1007 at aol.com wrote:
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> there are 2 yearly reminders that I do and haven't yet - #1 - if you feel the need to carry weed on you in southern NM - don't - too many border patrol around - one year a BP stopped a hiker and made him take everything from his pack - wait till you get farther north - a rocky mtn high is great - been there #2 - when the weather get's warmer the cattle stock ponds will look inviting to swim in - don't - the cows will not drink from it due to human smells and this pisses off the ranchers - they have to empty it and clean it out and then refill - with a major drought going on water is valuable and limited - the ranchers have enough problems with the illegals batheing in them 
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> Keith
> Deming, NM
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