[Cdt-l] CC vs CDTS, post-Silver Fire

Andy James longhiker.pct at gmail.com
Sun Aug 11 12:11:59 CDT 2013

I agree with Brett.  There are circumstances that force you from the
official routing.


However, I would be a bit reluctant to take advice from the previous post by
someone who's sum total of experience is hiking from Columbus to Snow Lake
without a single step on the designated national scenic trail.   


I hiked the CC and Black Range routing as part of my CDT hike and picked
those choices because the  trail actually closely follows the divide. I live
in NM and have done many Gila hikes, including the one from Docs to Snow
Lake and it is also a great hike.  HYOH, but the official route is where it
should be, close to the divide.  There are lots of great hike choices out
there but the "D" in "CDT" does not stand for Deming.  






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Subject: [Cdt-l] CC vs CDTS, post-Silver Fire


Given the recent Silver Fire in the Black Range and likely extensive trail
damage there, it's conceivable that the best route for the time being would
be official CDT from the border, then joining the CDTS route in the Gila. Or
for southbounders, CDTS in Gila to official CDT (Doc Campbells to Silver




- Brett




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Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2013 09:18:45 -0700
From: "Doug Carlson" <doug-sue at centurylink.net>
Subject: Re: [Cdt-l] CC Vs CDTS
To: "'Eric White'" <ericshawwhite at yahoo.com>
Cc: Cdt-l at backcountry.net
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If one's goal is to follow the CD as closely as possible, that makes sense.
But if you agree with the aims of the CDTS and look for- what does Jim Wolfe
say- water and historic/senic advantages- than the CDTS is a very good

Keith has set up two very good spots between Columbus and Deming for water,
Deming is a great resupply town, and there is water north of there.  Keith
in Deming  and Lynnea in Mimbres are excellent support.  

I am not fixated on the CD myself- just looking for an interesting route and
the CDTS is it.  

This is my opinion- Keith is a very good experience.  He loves the CDTS and
has done a lot to set up water contacts between Deming and Columbus.  I told
him what he asks for picking up hikers and getting them to Columbus is too
little.  I never met Sam Hughes, but I am sure Kieth has done as much for
the CDTS as Same did for CC's and the CDT.


From: Eric White [mailto:ericshawwhite at yahoo.com] 
Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2013 8:47 AM
To: Doug Carlson; Keith Schwarzer
Subject: Re: [Cdt-l] CC Vs CDTS

I disagree - The best place should be on the true Divide west of Antelope
Wells, but the Busch family won't let hikers on their property. Another
example of the one percenters calling the shots. Mini Mart

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