[Cdt-l] waypoints Sam Huges water Caches?

[Trekker4 at aol.com]

Once again, lets have a standing ovation for all Jerry Brown does  for the 
CDT!
 
Bob  "Trekker" Brewer
Naturalized Citizen - Republic of Texas


In a message dated 2/11/2013 7:23:13 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
bcss at bresnan.net writes:

 
One of the big goals of the  CDT is to be non-motorized.  That is why the 
new route was developed – to  put hikers on trail instead of road.   Good 
news is that the route  will eventually include new trail from near Omega 
connecting to Pietown, so  that town will always be part of the trail.  I have 
done both the new  trail and the road walk and the new trail is definitely 
nicer.  If I were  doing the trail for the first time I think I would hike to 
Omega then follow  the highway to Pietown.   There is new trail planned from 
Pietown to  the Malpais that will be spectacular.    
 
best  wishes, 
Jerry  Brown 
(970)  403-3527    Cell: (970) 749-0496 
_mailto:bcss at bresnan.net_ (mailto:bcss at bresnan.net)  
_www.bearcreeksurvey.com_ (mip://093ca520/www.bearcreeksurvey.com) 
 
 
From: Doug Carlson  [mailto:doug-sue at centurylink.net] 
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2013  5:54 PM
To: Cdt-l at backcountry.net
Cc:  bcss at bresnan.net
Subject: RE: [Cdt-l] waypoints Sam Huges water  Caches?

Jerry, your  reference to  the bearcreek maps and waypoints are a big help. 
Those waypoints should get me  to Silver City with no problem.   
>From there I want to go up  through the heart of the Gila Wilderness via 
Doc Campbells and on to Pie  Town.  I can't imagine the official route moving 
away from Pie Town  unless there was a really really good reason.  I have 
looked forward to  carrying a pack into Pie Town and eating pie for a long 
time.    
I am feeling more  confident  about this trip all the time.   
Side note:  with new  gear, maps, food, mailing, travel, a long hike isn't 
cheap.  Can't wait  to get going. 
-Trew 
 
 
From: _cdt-l-bounces at backcountry.net_ 
(mailto:cdt-l-bounces at backcountry.net)   [_mailto:cdt-l-bounces at backcountry.net_ 
(mailto:cdt-l-bounces at backcountry.net) ]  On Behalf Of _bcss at bresnan.net_ (mailto:bcss at bresnan.net) 
Sent: Monday,  February 11, 2013 1:10 PM
To: _Cdt-l at backcountry.net_ (mailto:Cdt-l at backcountry.net) 
Subject:  Re: [Cdt-l] waypoints Sam Huges water  Caches?

Trew, 
Free waypoint files for the  entire CDT (which include the cache boxes) are 
available here:  _www.bearcreeksurvey.com_ 
(mip://093ca520/www.bearcreeksurvey.com)     
Take the Waypoints  link on the main page and you will end up on a page 
where you can download  them. They were all collected with professional grade 
gps and are quite  accurate. There are 6972 waypoints in all for the entire 
trail route, average  spacing a little over ½ mile.  They only apply to the 
official USFS/BLM  route for the CDNST so for the many possible alternate 
hikes such as the Gila  River, Winds, or Anaconda cutoff they won’t help, but 
most of the time you  will likely be on the official route.  I think Frank’s G
’s website may  have some helpful data for the alternates.  
_https://www.sites.google.com/site/frankgilliland/cdt_ 
(https://www.sites.google.com/site/frankgilliland/cdt)  
The Mapbooks are spiral bound  collections of 1”=3000’ scale hiker maps 
that show the official route and all   of the waypoints with a high level of 
accuracy. There is information about  them on the front page of the bearcreek 
website.&   
These are the Waypoint names  for the Water Boxes between Crazy Cook and 
Lordsburg: 
01_137WT 
01_255WT 
02_194WT 
03_127WT 
04_198WT 
There is a considerable amount  of water in there in addition to the boxes. 
 (Farm ponds and watering  tanks)  Any waypoint that ends in “WT” is a 
place we found water.  I  would suggest always carrying more than you 
anticipate needing in there in  case one of them is dry or non functional.  If you 
plan for 20 miles  between water sources you could do the entire thing just 
using the cache  boxes.  
best  wishes, 
Jerry  Brown 
_mailto:bcss at bresnan.net_ (mailto:bcss at bresnan.net)  
_www.bearcreeksurvey.com_ (mip://093ca520/www.bearcreeksurvey.com)  



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