[Cdt-l] Cdt-l Digest, Vol 66, Issue 16
Ellie Thomas
sidselliott at aol.com
Mon Mar 11 16:13:22 CDT 2013
I used the SPOT on the PCT and CDT and had good experiences with it on both trails. Recently though, I climbed Kilimanjaro with a group, and one of them had a Delorme InReach. Everyone in the group used it to text home on her iphone, to their families in the US, at least once during the trip. She used it nightly. I was impressed with the satellite reception.
I don't really know the specifics, other than it can link up to a smart phone or be used independently. I believe REI sells them.
On Mar 11, 2013, at 4:16 PM, cdt-l-request at backcountry.net wrote:
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> 1. Re: gps (BCSS)
> 2. Re: Fwd: docs to pietown (BCSS)
> 3. Fwd: Fwd: docs to pietown (ks1007 at aol.com)
> 4. Re: Fwd: docs to pietown (Peter Sustr)
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> Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2013 12:51:56 -0700
> From: BCSS <bcss at bresnan.net>
> Subject: Re: [Cdt-l] gps
> To: Jim Eagleton <eagletonjim at aol.com>
> Cc: "cdt-l at backcountry.net" <cdt-l at backcountry.net>
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> Problem is not the capacity of the card, but the number of waypoints that can be loaded at once. If you use POI's in lieu of waypoints, then you can put all the maps needed for the entire trail on a single card. 2 GB is plenty big enough. You can also place the maps and POI's in the internal memory of the gps and only carry a card as a backup. This will not work with the Garmin pre-loaded maps, however. Those files are huge. You can use those cards, however, with POI's preloaded in the main memory.
>
> There is a cookbook of sorts which explains how to build your own maps on www.bearcreeksurvey.com. It is on the same page where you download waypoints.
>
> Jim - Gaia works on Iphones. You load waypoints by attaching gpx files to an e-mail and sending them to yourself on the phone. I have it on a Ipad and it works. It has gotten jammed up a couple of times, though, and I lost all the maps and data. If you keep the e-mails with the attached gpx files on the phone then you could probably recover enough from a disaster to carry on. You could always whip out the old compass and maps to use for a while.
>
> JB
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> Sent from my iPad
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> On Mar 10, 2013, at 4:19 PM, Jim Eagleton <eagletonjim at aol.com> wrote:
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>> I just downloaded the Bearcreek NM waypoints and they are less than 850 kb or a 1000 states/card. I would guess that detailed maps could take up alot of space. The 450t has 100,000:1-detail maps. I think the preloaded maps would be fine in conjunction with Ley/Bearcreek paper maps.
>>
>> Most people are navigating differently between the paper maps and gps. The gps can be used to locate yourself on the paper map.
>> The gps is most valuable when the map is vague, say the desert or on snow cover. So, you can use it to find the Karsonite stakes that have been knocked to the ground by the cattle, or at least keep you on track enough to find the next upright stake.
>>
>> I think this is why most people are using the eTrex 20. It is half the price, lighter, and the smaller screen extends battery life.
>>
>> I'm trying to find an app to make my iPhone work as a gps. I may end up with the eTrex.
>>
>> Rambler
>> Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2013 12:18:50 -0400
>> From: Craig Johnston <johnston73 at me.com>
>> Subject: [Cdt-l] Hello Cdt-l / GPS question
>> To: Cdt-l at backcountry.net
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>> Hello Cdt-l, hope all is well ( really didnt mean to rhyme )
>> anyway Im about to attempt a thru-hike of the CDT and
>> was thinking about getting the Garmin Oregon 450t
>> I believe it comes with 850 mb SD card.
>> Does anyone know if I will need to purchase additional cards
>> to hold all the various maps and tracks ?
>> Thanks for your help,
>> Craig
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> From: BCSS <bcss at bresnan.net>
> Subject: Re: [Cdt-l] Fwd: docs to pietown
> To: Karl Gottshalk <kgottshalk at gmail.com>
> Cc: CDT <cdt-l at backcountry.net>
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> Lots of success stories out there with Spots.
>
> We carried one on the CDT in tracking mode to promote the Mapping Project. It occasionally didn't track very well, but it seemed reliable for sending out OK messages. They have the same limitations as a gps does and won't work as well in highly obstructed environments, so you may need to move it around a bit in an emergency.
>
> Might be better if you only use it in an emergency, so people don't freak out if they don't hear from you when they expect to.
>
> JB (on the beach 200 miles south of Matzalan)
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> Sent from my iPad
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> On Mar 11, 2013, at 12:33 PM, Karl Gottshalk <kgottshalk at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> Just curious about the SPOT malfunction, I carried one on the Colorado Trail. My family loved knowing that I was OK and where I was. As an unexpected bonus, my daughter was waiting for me at the Creede trailhead in Colorado when I came off the trail as she knew about when I would be there by my SPOT updates. Never had any issues.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 2:25 PM, Tjamrog08 <tjamrog at me.com> wrote:
>>> No Spot. Seen one malfunction, and it wasn't pretty.
>>> Uncle Tom
>>>
>>> On Mar 11, 2013, at 2:22 PM, ks1007 at aol.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> or you could use goats like the goat man did
>>>> how many of you are carrying a SPOT?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Keith
>>>> Deming, NM
>>>>
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>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: neighbor dave <neighbordave220 at hotmail.com>
>>>> To: cdt-l <cdt-l at backcountry.net>
>>>> Sent: Mon, Mar 11, 2013 4:27 am
>>>> Subject: [Cdt-l] docs to pietown
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>>>> might be easier to have a stock animal to carry your water, then at least when you get tired you can ride it.
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> Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2013 16:15:48 -0400 (EDT)
> From: ks1007 at aol.com
> Subject: [Cdt-l] Fwd: Fwd: docs to pietown
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> a SPOT saved goat man's life and I have heard of one other hikers life being saved by one
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> Keith
> Deming, NM
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> From: Karl Gottshalk <kgottshalk at gmail.com>
> To: Tjamrog08 <tjamrog at me.com>
> Cc: ks1007 <ks1007 at aol.com>; CDT <cdt-l at backcountry.net>
> Sent: Mon, Mar 11, 2013 1:33 pm
> Subject: Re: [Cdt-l] Fwd: docs to pietown
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> Just curious about the SPOT malfunction, I carried one on the Colorado Trail. My family loved knowing that I was OK and where I was. As an unexpected bonus, my daughter was waiting for me at the Creede trailhead in Colorado when I came off the trail as she knew about when I would be there by my SPOT updates. Never had any issues.
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> On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 2:25 PM, Tjamrog08 <tjamrog at me.com> wrote:
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> No Spot. Seen one malfunction, and it wasn't pretty.
> Uncle Tom
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> On Mar 11, 2013, at 2:22 PM, ks1007 at aol.com wrote:
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> or you could use goats like the goat man did
> how many of you are carrying a SPOT?
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>
> Keith
> Deming, NM
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: neighbor dave <neighbordave220 at hotmail.com>
> To: cdt-l <cdt-l at backcountry.net>
> Sent: Mon, Mar 11, 2013 4:27 am
> Subject: [Cdt-l] docs to pietown
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> might be easier to have a stock animal to carry your water, then at least when you get tired you can ride it.
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> From: Peter Sustr <petersustr at gmail.com>
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> Has anyone ever used the Delorme system for 2-way communication that also
> has the 'help' feature like spot?
>
> Peter
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> On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 2:11 PM, BCSS <bcss at bresnan.net> wrote:
>
>> Lots of success stories out there with Spots.
>>
>> We carried one on the CDT in tracking mode to promote the Mapping Project.
>> It occasionally didn't track very well, but it seemed reliable for sending
>> out OK messages. They have the same limitations as a gps does and won't
>> work as well in highly obstructed environments, so you may need to move it
>> around a bit in an emergency.
>>
>> Might be better if you only use it in an emergency, so people don't freak
>> out if they don't hear from you when they expect to.
>>
>> JB (on the beach 200 miles south of Matzalan)
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On Mar 11, 2013, at 12:33 PM, Karl Gottshalk <kgottshalk at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Just curious about the SPOT malfunction, I carried one on the Colorado
>> Trail. My family loved knowing that I was OK and where I was. As an
>> unexpected bonus, my daughter was waiting for me at the Creede trailhead in
>> Colorado when I came off the trail as she knew about when I would be there
>> by my SPOT updates. Never had any issues.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 2:25 PM, Tjamrog08 <tjamrog at me.com> wrote:
>>
>>> No Spot. Seen one malfunction, and it wasn't pretty.
>>> Uncle Tom
>>>
>>> On Mar 11, 2013, at 2:22 PM, ks1007 at aol.com wrote:
>>>
>>> *or you could use goats like the goat man did*
>>> *how many of you are carrying a SPOT?*
>>>
>>> **
>>> *Keith *
>>> *Deming, NM*
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: neighbor dave <neighbordave220 at hotmail.com>
>>> To: cdt-l <cdt-l at backcountry.net>
>>> Sent: Mon, Mar 11, 2013 4:27 am
>>> Subject: [Cdt-l] docs to pietown
>>>
>>> might be easier to have a stock animal to carry your water, then at
>>> least when you get tired you can ride it.
>>>
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