[Cdt-l] Cdt-l Digest, Vol 66, Issue 38

Tjamrog08 tjamrog at me.com
Wed Mar 27 05:00:45 CDT 2013


Alan, 
I 100% agree that, "One swallow does not make a summer." -Erasmus

One of the quotes that is cemented in my consciousness while I'm in the thick of hiking is this one, from the greatest trailblazer this country will ever know:

"I have always held it a crime to anticipate evils.  I believe it a good comfortable road until I am compelled to believe differently."    Meriwether Lewis, May 26, 1805.

Uncle Tom 

On Mar 26, 2013, at 10:30 PM, Alan Fox wrote:

> To skip an entire town because of a bad experieance someone had??   I recall 
> someone telling me that the people in Mojave were really rude and did'nt 
> like hikers.  I took that as a challange to hitch there and see. Well.... 
> everywhere I went I found nice people.  You can't judge a town by one or two 
> dicks.  Frost
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>> Today's Topics:
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>>  1. Re: Rain Pants? (Craig Johnston)
>>  2. Re: Rio Grande del Norte National Monument (JD Schaefer)
>>  3. Atlantic City and Big Sandy (david at greenpackin.com)
>>  4. Ferris Mountain Route (Craig Johnston)
>>  5. Re: Atlantic City and Big Sandy (Jackie McDonnell)
>>  6. Re: Atlantic City and Big Sandy (Craig Johnston)
>>  7. Re: south pass and atlantic city (Naomi Hudetz)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2013 09:29:34 -0400
>> From: Craig Johnston <johnston73 at me.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Cdt-l] Rain Pants?
>> To: Bob Sartini <bobsartini at gmail.com>
>> Cc: "Cdt-l at backcountry.net Emaillist" <Cdt-l at backcountry.net>
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>> Trash bag capris :D ?
>> 
>> On Mar 26, 2013, at 9:27 AM, Bob Sartini <bobsartini at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> I carry them. Work well when it's cold or cold rain. But mainly what 
>>> would I wear in the laundromat ?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 9:25 AM, Craig Johnston <johnston73 at me.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>> who has / is  carrying / carried rain pants on the CDT ?
>>> are they needed ?
>>> 
>>> I didnt have any for the PCT or AT ..
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>> Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2013 09:32:11 -0400
>> From: JD Schaefer <jdrows at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Cdt-l] Rio Grande del Norte National Monument
>> To: blisterfree at yahoo.com
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>> BF
>> I'm in Chama until Thursday morning.  Did you hike an out and back?
>> Where'd you start?
>> 
>> Thanks
>> JD
>> 
>> 
>> On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 11:54 PM, <blisterfree at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> This is a big deal. Stretching from the western Carson National Forest
>>> district / CDT country to the eastern district near Taos at the foot of 
>>> the
>>> Sangre de Cristos, the newly-created Rio Grande del Norte National 
>>> Monument
>>> protects a long tract of the Rio Grande Gorge along with a huge swath of
>>> nearly virgin high desert country that nonetheless had been a mixture of
>>> public and private lands with no overarching management plan.
>>> 
>>> I hiked a cross section of this territory last summer, from Chama to
>>> Questa, and can confirm it's as wild as something right out of the
>>> Pleistocene in many places, a remarkable thing considering the mostly
>>> uncomplicated high desert topography which spreads out between two 
>>> distant,
>>> yet well-travelled highways at either end, and dotted with hulking,
>>> symmetrical cones born of recent volcanism. The views are sweeping and
>>> nearly infinite.
>>> 
>>> Somewhere down the line, this new national monument will surely become a
>>> long-distance hikers best friend, I suspect. Let's see to it that it's
>>> managed well, is left in a natural state, and does not, as a now 
>>> singularly
>>> managed tract, fall prey to politics, energy development, and the like.
>>> 
>>> - blisterfree
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>> Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2013 06:34:36 -0700
>> From: <david at greenpackin.com>
>> Subject: [Cdt-l] Atlantic City and Big Sandy
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>> Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2013 10:05:58 -0400
>> From: Craig Johnston <johnston73 at me.com>
>> Subject: [Cdt-l] Ferris Mountain Route
>> To: CDT Emaillist <cdt-l at backcountry.net>
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>> anyone have thoughts on Ferris mt. route ?
>> Im was thinking about doing it.
>> 
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>> Message: 5
>> Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2013 09:29:55 -0500
>> From: Jackie McDonnell <yogihikes at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Cdt-l] Atlantic City and Big Sandy
>> To: CDT Emaillist <cdt-l at backcountry.net>
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>> Big Sandy Lodge used to acept packages for hikers, even if they were not
>> guests.  That changed (2006-ish?) because a hiker broke into a cabin to
>> retrieve his package.
>> 
>> Yogi
>> www.pcthandbook.com
>> On Mar 26, 2013 8:34 AM, <david at greenpackin.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Don't know about Atlantic City but Tony at the Big Sandy Lodge says
>>> they'll accept packages but you have to have a reservation at the lodge 
>>> for
>>> them to do so. Still doing research to see if anyone else in the Big 
>>> Sandy
>>> area accepts mail drops.
>>> 
>>> David
>>> *GreenPackin'*
>>> *When BackPackin', go GreenPackin'*
>>> *david at greenpackin.com*
>>> *www.greenpackin.com*
>>> *(256) 683-6172*
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>> Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2013 10:32:53 -0400
>> From: Craig Johnston <johnston73 at me.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Cdt-l] Atlantic City and Big Sandy
>> To: Jackie McDonnell <yogihikes at gmail.com>
>> Cc: CDT Emaillist <Cdt-l at backcountry.net>
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>> Gee that was very nice of that hiker, I hope his ass got arrested ...
>> 
>> On Mar 26, 2013, at 10:29 AM, Jackie McDonnell <yogihikes at gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Big Sandy Lodge used to acept packages for hikers, even if they were not 
>>> guests.  That changed (2006-ish?) because a hiker broke into a cabin to 
>>> retrieve his package.
>>> 
>>> Yogi
>>> www.pcthandbook.com
>>> 
>>> On Mar 26, 2013 8:34 AM, <david at greenpackin.com> wrote:
>>> Don't know about Atlantic City but Tony at the Big Sandy Lodge says 
>>> they'll accept packages but you have to have a reservation at the lodge 
>>> for them to do so. Still doing research to see if anyone else in the Big 
>>> Sandy area accepts mail drops.
>>> 
>>> David
>>> GreenPackin'
>>> When BackPackin', go GreenPackin'
>>> david at greenpackin.com
>>> www.greenpackin.com
>>> (256) 683-6172
>>> 
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>> Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2013 08:26:22 -0700
>> From: Naomi Hudetz <naomihudetz at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Cdt-l] south pass and atlantic city
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>> We had a fantastic experience at the Mercantile last year.  We sat at
>> the bar and chatted with the bartender, who told us he and his brother
>> owned it.  He seemed to genuinely enjoyour conversation, always
>> returning to chat when he wasn't busy. Dinner was delicious.  He kept my
>> soda glass full (of Squirt, BTW). They made us sandwiches to go.  He
>> didn't mind that we filled our water bottles. A very positive experience.
>> 
>> I also called the B&B and was told they were full.  I never mentioned we
>> were hikers.  The bartender told us that theB&B likes *plenty* of
>> advance notice.
>> 
>> Naomi
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>> On 3/25/2013 10:13 PM, cdt-l-request at backcountry.net wrote:
>>> On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 9:50 PM, Jackie 
>>> McDonnell<yogihikes at gmail.com>wrote:
>>> 
>>>>> Holy crap..........Atlantic City............in 2004, I had a great time 
>>>>> in
>>>>> AC.  Nice people, great food, rented a cabin from the Mercantile.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 2012 was a whole different experience.  The people there were RUDE, and
>>>>> hated hikers.  No, I'm not imagining it.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Matt and I were sitting at the bar in the Mercantile.  They CLEARLY 
>>>>> knew
>>>>> we were hikers:  we looked like hikers, plus we nicely asked the 
>>>>> bartender
>>>>> (owner?) where he wanted us to put our packs.  The Bartender was
>>>>> indifferent to us until some other guests sat right next to us.  Then 
>>>>> the
>>>>> bartender started talking to those guests about how much the bartender
>>>>> dislikes hikers.  Hello?  We're RIGHT HERE.
>>>>> 
>>>>> While we were at the bar, I called to that B&B you mentioned.  I asked
>>>>> about getting a room, and the conversation was fine until I said we 
>>>>> were
>>>>> CDT hikers.  The B&B person immediately decided he didn't have any 
>>>>> rooms,
>>>>> and hung up on me.
>>>>> 
>>>>> So, I say skip AC.
>>>>> 
>>>>> South Pass City:  yes you can mail out, but it's not a Post Office. 
>>>>> The
>>>>> lady in the store takes your money, then she mails your package when 
>>>>> she
>>>>> goes to town (I'm guessing Lander).  South Pass City is not a "town". 
>>>>> It's
>>>>> an historical site.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Yogi
>>>>> www.pcthandbook.com
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