[Cdt-l] Cdt-l Digest, Vol 66, Issue 38
Tjamrog08
tjamrog at me.com
Wed Mar 27 05:00:45 CDT 2013
Alan,
I 100% agree that, "One swallow does not make a summer." -Erasmus
One of the quotes that is cemented in my consciousness while I'm in the thick of hiking is this one, from the greatest trailblazer this country will ever know:
"I have always held it a crime to anticipate evils. I believe it a good comfortable road until I am compelled to believe differently." Meriwether Lewis, May 26, 1805.
Uncle Tom
On Mar 26, 2013, at 10:30 PM, Alan Fox wrote:
> To skip an entire town because of a bad experieance someone had?? I recall
> someone telling me that the people in Mojave were really rude and did'nt
> like hikers. I took that as a challange to hitch there and see. Well....
> everywhere I went I found nice people. You can't judge a town by one or two
> dicks. Frost
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>> Today's Topics:
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>> 1. Re: Rain Pants? (Craig Johnston)
>> 2. Re: Rio Grande del Norte National Monument (JD Schaefer)
>> 3. Atlantic City and Big Sandy (david at greenpackin.com)
>> 4. Ferris Mountain Route (Craig Johnston)
>> 5. Re: Atlantic City and Big Sandy (Jackie McDonnell)
>> 6. Re: Atlantic City and Big Sandy (Craig Johnston)
>> 7. Re: south pass and atlantic city (Naomi Hudetz)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2013 09:29:34 -0400
>> From: Craig Johnston <johnston73 at me.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Cdt-l] Rain Pants?
>> To: Bob Sartini <bobsartini at gmail.com>
>> Cc: "Cdt-l at backcountry.net Emaillist" <Cdt-l at backcountry.net>
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>> Trash bag capris :D ?
>>
>> On Mar 26, 2013, at 9:27 AM, Bob Sartini <bobsartini at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I carry them. Work well when it's cold or cold rain. But mainly what
>>> would I wear in the laundromat ?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 9:25 AM, Craig Johnston <johnston73 at me.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> who has / is carrying / carried rain pants on the CDT ?
>>> are they needed ?
>>>
>>> I didnt have any for the PCT or AT ..
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>> Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2013 09:32:11 -0400
>> From: JD Schaefer <jdrows at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Cdt-l] Rio Grande del Norte National Monument
>> To: blisterfree at yahoo.com
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>> BF
>> I'm in Chama until Thursday morning. Did you hike an out and back?
>> Where'd you start?
>>
>> Thanks
>> JD
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 11:54 PM, <blisterfree at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> This is a big deal. Stretching from the western Carson National Forest
>>> district / CDT country to the eastern district near Taos at the foot of
>>> the
>>> Sangre de Cristos, the newly-created Rio Grande del Norte National
>>> Monument
>>> protects a long tract of the Rio Grande Gorge along with a huge swath of
>>> nearly virgin high desert country that nonetheless had been a mixture of
>>> public and private lands with no overarching management plan.
>>>
>>> I hiked a cross section of this territory last summer, from Chama to
>>> Questa, and can confirm it's as wild as something right out of the
>>> Pleistocene in many places, a remarkable thing considering the mostly
>>> uncomplicated high desert topography which spreads out between two
>>> distant,
>>> yet well-travelled highways at either end, and dotted with hulking,
>>> symmetrical cones born of recent volcanism. The views are sweeping and
>>> nearly infinite.
>>>
>>> Somewhere down the line, this new national monument will surely become a
>>> long-distance hikers best friend, I suspect. Let's see to it that it's
>>> managed well, is left in a natural state, and does not, as a now
>>> singularly
>>> managed tract, fall prey to politics, energy development, and the like.
>>>
>>> - blisterfree
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>> Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2013 06:34:36 -0700
>> From: <david at greenpackin.com>
>> Subject: [Cdt-l] Atlantic City and Big Sandy
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>> Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2013 10:05:58 -0400
>> From: Craig Johnston <johnston73 at me.com>
>> Subject: [Cdt-l] Ferris Mountain Route
>> To: CDT Emaillist <cdt-l at backcountry.net>
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>> anyone have thoughts on Ferris mt. route ?
>> Im was thinking about doing it.
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>> Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2013 09:29:55 -0500
>> From: Jackie McDonnell <yogihikes at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Cdt-l] Atlantic City and Big Sandy
>> To: CDT Emaillist <cdt-l at backcountry.net>
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>> Big Sandy Lodge used to acept packages for hikers, even if they were not
>> guests. That changed (2006-ish?) because a hiker broke into a cabin to
>> retrieve his package.
>>
>> Yogi
>> www.pcthandbook.com
>> On Mar 26, 2013 8:34 AM, <david at greenpackin.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Don't know about Atlantic City but Tony at the Big Sandy Lodge says
>>> they'll accept packages but you have to have a reservation at the lodge
>>> for
>>> them to do so. Still doing research to see if anyone else in the Big
>>> Sandy
>>> area accepts mail drops.
>>>
>>> David
>>> *GreenPackin'*
>>> *When BackPackin', go GreenPackin'*
>>> *david at greenpackin.com*
>>> *www.greenpackin.com*
>>> *(256) 683-6172*
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>> Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2013 10:32:53 -0400
>> From: Craig Johnston <johnston73 at me.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Cdt-l] Atlantic City and Big Sandy
>> To: Jackie McDonnell <yogihikes at gmail.com>
>> Cc: CDT Emaillist <Cdt-l at backcountry.net>
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>> Gee that was very nice of that hiker, I hope his ass got arrested ...
>>
>> On Mar 26, 2013, at 10:29 AM, Jackie McDonnell <yogihikes at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Big Sandy Lodge used to acept packages for hikers, even if they were not
>>> guests. That changed (2006-ish?) because a hiker broke into a cabin to
>>> retrieve his package.
>>>
>>> Yogi
>>> www.pcthandbook.com
>>>
>>> On Mar 26, 2013 8:34 AM, <david at greenpackin.com> wrote:
>>> Don't know about Atlantic City but Tony at the Big Sandy Lodge says
>>> they'll accept packages but you have to have a reservation at the lodge
>>> for them to do so. Still doing research to see if anyone else in the Big
>>> Sandy area accepts mail drops.
>>>
>>> David
>>> GreenPackin'
>>> When BackPackin', go GreenPackin'
>>> david at greenpackin.com
>>> www.greenpackin.com
>>> (256) 683-6172
>>>
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>> Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2013 08:26:22 -0700
>> From: Naomi Hudetz <naomihudetz at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Cdt-l] south pass and atlantic city
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>> We had a fantastic experience at the Mercantile last year. We sat at
>> the bar and chatted with the bartender, who told us he and his brother
>> owned it. He seemed to genuinely enjoyour conversation, always
>> returning to chat when he wasn't busy. Dinner was delicious. He kept my
>> soda glass full (of Squirt, BTW). They made us sandwiches to go. He
>> didn't mind that we filled our water bottles. A very positive experience.
>>
>> I also called the B&B and was told they were full. I never mentioned we
>> were hikers. The bartender told us that theB&B likes *plenty* of
>> advance notice.
>>
>> Naomi
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>> On 3/25/2013 10:13 PM, cdt-l-request at backcountry.net wrote:
>>> On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 9:50 PM, Jackie
>>> McDonnell<yogihikes at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Holy crap..........Atlantic City............in 2004, I had a great time
>>>>> in
>>>>> AC. Nice people, great food, rented a cabin from the Mercantile.
>>>>>
>>>>> 2012 was a whole different experience. The people there were RUDE, and
>>>>> hated hikers. No, I'm not imagining it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Matt and I were sitting at the bar in the Mercantile. They CLEARLY
>>>>> knew
>>>>> we were hikers: we looked like hikers, plus we nicely asked the
>>>>> bartender
>>>>> (owner?) where he wanted us to put our packs. The Bartender was
>>>>> indifferent to us until some other guests sat right next to us. Then
>>>>> the
>>>>> bartender started talking to those guests about how much the bartender
>>>>> dislikes hikers. Hello? We're RIGHT HERE.
>>>>>
>>>>> While we were at the bar, I called to that B&B you mentioned. I asked
>>>>> about getting a room, and the conversation was fine until I said we
>>>>> were
>>>>> CDT hikers. The B&B person immediately decided he didn't have any
>>>>> rooms,
>>>>> and hung up on me.
>>>>>
>>>>> So, I say skip AC.
>>>>>
>>>>> South Pass City: yes you can mail out, but it's not a Post Office.
>>>>> The
>>>>> lady in the store takes your money, then she mails your package when
>>>>> she
>>>>> goes to town (I'm guessing Lander). South Pass City is not a "town".
>>>>> It's
>>>>> an historical site.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yogi
>>>>> www.pcthandbook.com
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