[Cdt-l] Gaia GPS app in place of dedicated GPS unit

Bob Sartini bobsartini at gmail.com
Wed Apr 2 17:35:17 CDT 2014


No idea. But check the Kate on that referenced page.

On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 6:29 PM, Brett <blisterfree at yahoo.com> wrote:
> The dedicated CDT apps look great. I see that these appear to incorporate
> tracks along with the Bearcreek waypoints. If that's correct, then are the
> tracks followable within the app? Are these tracks (presumably just of the
> official route) available elsewhere for use in third party apps, GPS units,
> Google Earth API's etc?
>
> - Brett
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: BCSS <bcss at bresnan.net>
> To: Brett <blisterfree at yahoo.com>
> Cc: "cdt-l at backcountry.net" <cdt-l at backcountry.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 2, 2014 3:09 PM
> Subject: Re: [Cdt-l] Gaia GPS app in place of dedicated GPS unit
>
> FYI - I have been in cooperation with High Sierra Attitude and Guthook
> guides to develop both Android and IOS versions of dedicated CDT apps.  A
> free demo version of the Android one is here:
>
> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.highsierraattitude.cdtdemo
>
> The demo has the trail from Crazy Cook to Lordsburg and Columbus alternate
> routes so people can use them free for the first part of the trail and see
> how they like them.
>
> IPad/Iphone version should be available in a week or so.  The Bear Creek
> waypoints are built into the apps.   The apps are being built a state at a
> time heading north, hopefully at a faster rate  than hikers are moving, so
> you should be able to do the entire trail using them this year.
>
> Jerry Brown  (bearcreek)
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Apr 2, 2014, at 12:16 PM, Brett <blisterfree at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Although a dedicated GPS unit like the eTrex 20 / 30 will provide slightly
> better accuracy, another approach is to use a smartphone GPS app such as
> Gaia GPS. This app is considerably more intuitive to use than the eTrex
> series, has essentially no storage limits beyond those of the device itself
> so you can load all the Bearcreek waypoints without having to convert them
> to POI's, and you can view and query all of the waypoints without jumping
> through hoops. Because you're only planning to get a fix on a waypoint here
> or there for guidance purposes, rather than following a GPS track all day, 3
> meter accuracy and a full week of battery life are less crucial.
>
> Off-contract Samsung Galaxy phones running Android can be had for less than
> half the price of an eTrex 30. I've only used the iPhone, GPS functionality
> is independent of a cell signal using Gaia GPS, but would assume the Galaxy
> mimics the same functionality. Accuracy is fine for casual use, might take a
> bit longer to handshake on startup without a cell signal / sim card
> installed.
>
> Battery life can be extended with an external USB battery charger, such as
> Anker Astro, which comes in various capacities that work out to about 1-2
> ounces product weight per single recharge capability.
>
> Gaia GPS app installation and upload / download management would be via a
> WiFi connection in the case of a phone without a cell signal or sim card.
> Gaia GPS can store 1:24000 quad maps for off-line use, possibly not for the
> entire CDT at once though, given the very large size of that data set. But
> probably enough maps could be stored strategically to reach the next known
> WiFi connection in town.
>
> The eTrex 20 is my go-to unit for field-recording tracks and waypoints,
> where accuracy and battery life are the most crucial. But were I to
> thru-hike the CDT with Bearcreek's data, I'd probably just carry my cell
> phone and save on the extra weight and fiddle factor. Ultimately GPS doesn't
> normally factor into one's hiking day to the extent that one might imagine
> it would.
>
> - Brett
>
> ________________________________
> From: "cdt-l-request at backcountry.net" <cdt-l-request at backcountry.net>
> To: cdt-l at backcountry.net
> Sent: Tuesday, April 1, 2014 10:00 AM
> Subject: Cdt-l Digest, Vol 79, Issue 1
>
> Yeah, Bob--I know exactly what you mean. I load waypoints every year
> and somehow it doesn't imprint itself on my memory--each time it is
> like doing it for the first time. My brain just balks at storing it in
> memory. Kind of like setting up my drip irrigation timer.
>
> I also glaze over at explanations. I print out the explanations and
> eventually re-read and mess around with the GPS them until I "grok"
> them. This process is weirdly uncomfortable--like I have to force my
> brain to concentrate on this stuff. I had no problem with math and
> science in school, or learning computer related skills, but the GPS is
> something else for some reason.
>
> --Fireweed
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bob Sartini"
> To:"Mary Kwart"
> Cc:"Eric White" , "Larry Swearingen" , "CDT Emaillist"
> Sent:Sun, 30 Mar 2014 08:38:04 -0400
> Subject:Re: [Cdt-l] Custom POIs
>
>  Nor do they care. And unfortunately the people who backpack like us
>  AND understand how the technology works don't seem to speak in a
>  language some of us can understand. Personally I glaze over very
>  quickly when reading what appear to others to be very precise
>  directions. I got it done a year ago and have no idea how.
>
>  But I think Bear Creek will load it all up for you. Check the web
> page.
>
>  On Sun, Mar 30, 2014 at 1:26 AM, Mary Kwart  wrote:
>  > Well--the trouble isn't using GPS in the field, that is easy, the
> problem
>  > is downloading the stuff beforehand with lousy documentation for
> the gadgets
>  > we use and the way we use them. I also carry a compass, which I
> have used
>  > since the 70's, but using a GPS in the field is like driving a
> Porsche over
>  > the compass Volkswagen. Much faster to locate yourself. GPS
> companies just
>  > aren't geared to our type of use, but to the needs of people
> geocaching and
>  > doing low mileage trips.
>  > --Fireweed
>
>
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