[Cdt-l] lost another water cache in Grants

Melanie Simmerman jennylind50 at yahoo.com
Tue Dec 16 09:23:58 CST 2014

It seems a travesty that that the Mumms have been penalized for being good samaritans to hikers on the CDT.  I don't remember hearing such troubles on the PCT and the local hiking clubs do multiple caches (large ones, too) in the desert section (from the Mexican border heading north). Don't know who is in charge of those caches - many different groups/individuals do them) but might be worth looking into it. Perhaps Donna Saufley knows?
That said, if we had a strong CDT organization (my opinion of the new CDTC is still pending), they should be our liaisons to the feds/state/local govt agencies to negotiate stuff like this....if they want people to hike those trails and spend money in their towns/states/ along the way...they should be somewhat flexible or helpful in making it possible to do the trail without great water problems...etc.
If it's possible to fight this citation is there a lawyer out in CDT land that can help the Mumms? Or shall we all pitch in to pay the fine?  I realize that their are laws and regulations on public lands, but this seems unreasonable.  We should not let the Mumms take the hit alone here...

     On Tuesday, December 16, 2014 8:51 AM, Bob Sartini <bobsartini at gmail.com> wrote:

 This  seems like a side effect of people  complaining  about the abundance  of Trail Magic  on all the trails.   On Dec 16, 2014 6:10 AM, "john paton" <johnpaton245 at fsmail.net> wrote:

Coming over from the UK I think your Trail Angel network is wonderful, not something I have experienced over here when hiking in Europe, and am very sad to hear about your problem. Some of you may have heard about Miss Janet's problem with the law back in '03 in Erwin, TN on the AT. The hiker hostel was full and hikers were looking for another place to stay so she helped out but the Hostel owner heard and called in the sheriff who threatened to take her to court. News travels fast on the trail and a lawyer who was on the trails called her to offer his services, free.On the flip side, a cop gave me a ride into Dubois, WY (its illegal to hitch in WY), and another in Yellowstone let me camp in the picnic zone at Old Faithful village.Luck of the draw. Maybe being from Scotland helped, a lot of people seem to have Scots-Irish ancestory.Scotland

Message Received: Dec 16 2014, 12:49 PM
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To: cdt-l at backcountry.net, birdcage at 7cities.net
Subject: Re: [Cdt-l] lost another water cache in Grants

Don't roll over so quickly. Contest the citation and make this guy show up in Court. Plead your case there rather than at the cache site. Mini Mart   -----Original Message-----
From: "Designer Aviaries" [birdcage at 7cities.net]
Date: 12/15/2014 03:39 PM
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