[Cdt-l] Fwd: Crazy Cook

ks1007 at aol.com ks1007 at aol.com
Sat Jan 11 13:01:29 CST 2014


thanks ginny for the info on not bathing in stock tanks - the cows and the ranchers don't like it



 
Keith 
Deming, NM



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From: Jim and_or Ginny Owen <spiriteagle99 at hotmail.com>
To: CicelyB250 at aol.com <cicelyb250 at aol.com>; cdt-l <cdt-l at backcountry.net>
Sent: Sat, Jan 11, 2014 11:47 am
Subject: Re: [Cdt-l] Crazy Cook



We haven't updated any of the trail or road information as we live a long way from New Mexico.  When we passed through southern NM a few years ago, we spotted new trail markers, but also some of the old ones in the same area.  It must get confusing for hikers trying to figure out which route to follow.  Unfortunately, some of the relocations take you away from the water sources.  I don't know why, except that some hikers may have been contaminating the tanks or scaring the cows.  (Never bathe in a tank.  The cows don't like it.)  We found water fairly frequently (4 or 5 times a day) south of Lordsburg.  In 2006 we easily reached the border in a Subaru Outback.  There were a couple of sandy spots, but that was it.  But that was a long time ago. 
 
Ginny

http://www.spiriteaglehome.com/
 


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From: cicelyb250 at aol.com
Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2014 11:14:11 -0500
Subject: [Cdt-l]  Crazy Cook


 

 

 




When I walked the CDT in 2008 I used the maps and water sources from Spirit Eagle's CDT website.  If still there, they were terrific. Lots of trail changes since then and don't know if he's kept it current,  but a good source.    Like a lot of the southern part of the route, look for cows.  Where there are cows, wind mills are "on" and water flows.  Did stash a gallon of water at last road crossing before CC.
And yes a 4 wheel rental car got us there easily.  Trail wasn't well marked and the "driver" got lost on the way out - 1 1/2 hrs in, 5 hrs out!  
No fence on border in 2008; only one stand of sagging wire.

CicelyB
 

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Matt Signore <mpsignore at gmail.com>
To: Eric Payne <ultrapayne at gmail.com>
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Sent: Sat, Jan 11, 2014 7:15 am
Subject: Re: [Cdt-l] Crazy Cook


I walked from the monument to the highway it was approx 23 miles and you pass by some of the nastiest tanks I had seen on my hike.  I didn't need water, but the tanks I saw were earthen with deep mud surrounding a foul looking puddle.



On Sat, Jan 11, 2014 at 8:11 AM, Eric Payne <ultrapayne at gmail.com> wrote:

It should be possible to hitch south along Hwy 81 and get to within 20 miles of the monument.  There is an access rd close to Antelope Wells on the west side of the Big Hatchets/Alamo Huecos that could be used.  Although there definitely isn't a ton of traffic out there, there are certainly ranchers and border patrol officers using that Hwy.  Once off the highway, it's very unlikely that you will find a hitch.  Surely there are other create routes to get to the monument after hitching/shuttling along the paved hwy.  


SOBO Will Govus reported finding good water along this access rd on his hike out to Hwy 81 this wet fall.   On the maps, there are several tanks listed.


If the CDTC is going to do shuttles though, that will be the way to go.  


-Hearsay
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