[Cdt-l] New Mexico CDT Signage-2 - Water
Jim and_or Ginny Owen
spiriteagle99 at hotmail.com
Sun Jan 12 10:38:46 CST 2014
The rainy season in the southwest is late summer (July - September), so generally the water situation is better in the fall than in spring.
There is no official water report. If you're lucky, other hikers a week ahead of you will share information either here or via a private list. In the past I tried to encourage people to share that information here, where section hikers as well as thruhikers can access the information, but it has been really hit or miss as to whether or not any water information is shared.
Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2014 09:38:01 -0500
From: tystandage at gmail.com
To: Trekker4 at aol.com
CC: Cdt-l at backcountry.net
Subject: Re: [Cdt-l] New Mexico CDT Signage-2
Thanks for the info. That was the impression I got. I'll definitely have my GPS loaded with way points and my maps and compass packed. Should be a fun adventure.
As far as water in the fall goes, I'm under no illusions there. I plan on having plenty of water stashes and staying up to date on the water situation generally. What is the best water report for NM CDT? Is it BLM, or is there another list that is updated by hikers? Or are there even enough CDT hikers from September through November to keep good current information?
On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 12:15 AM, <Trekker4 at aol.com> wrote:
In '10 there was a lot of new in '10 BLM
signed trail, new signs but no even faint trail; and, there was a lot of side to
side walking to get around vegetation; I'd guess all that's still true, and
believe it'll take 10-25 years for there to be a visible trail. Hikers wandering
from sign to sign won't beat down much of a trail. I was brand new to GPS in
'10, and about 3 mi W of one of the paved roads ran out of signs just after
a tank at a fence corner, even through GPS said I was on the trail. I didn't
trust the GPS, walked about a mi from the corner finding no signs and looking at
15 mi of open desert, with no reasonably close mountains for reference, to the
next road on S side of Lordsburg. When I lost sight of the fence corner, and
finding no signs, I turned around and walked back to the paved road and road
walked into Lordsburg, the rancher whose land I was on gave me a ride most of
the way back to the pavement, and I spent one night in a culvert under the road
since it was all private property with houses near I-10. I found out later that
I wasn't the only hiker that year who couldn't find the signs in far S
I decided that probably the guys who put up
the signs could easily see each other quite a ways apart when installing the
signs, but not being hikers forgot that a man is much wider and taller than the
signs. The skinny signs, vegetation growth, and knocked down signs
made for many, many times when the next sign wasn't visible for several
Now, I'd easily trust the GPS; it's saved
me many, many off course excursions on the CDT. I've felt every year since that
the CDT signage was poor or non-existent in many places in every CDT
state. Some of you like that challenge I know; I just want to walk, not play
guess where the trail is located. I think I read that CDTC plans to fix
the sign problem. I'll be done this summer, before they get around to it
And Ty, NM was in a severe drought in '13;
in the fall, scarce water sources will be even worse than spring. Good
In a message dated 1/11/2014 12:48:39 P.M. Central Standard Time,
tystandage at gmail.com writes:
Hello all! Glad to be tapped into this knowledgeable group. I'm
planning on doing the New Mexico section of the CDT this fall.
I'm wondering about signage on this section of the trail. I've got my
Jerry Brown Maps and am studying them religiously. Just wondering whether the
bulk of the trail is hard to miss and whether there are specific segments that
give some people trouble as far as staying on route.
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