[Cdt-l] Custom POIs

Mary Kwart mkwart at gci.net
Sun Mar 30 00:26:29 CDT 2014

 Well--the trouble isn't using GPS in the field, that is easy, the
problem is downloading the stuff beforehand with lousy documentation
for the gadgets we use and the way we use them. I also carry a
compass, which I have used since the 70's, but using a GPS in the
field is like driving a Porsche over the compass Volkswagen. Much
faster to locate yourself. GPS companies just aren't geared to our
type of use, but to the needs of people geocaching and doing low
mileage trips.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Eric White" 
To:"Larry Swearingen" , "Mary Kwart" , "cdt-l at backcountry.net" 
Sent:Sat, 29 Mar 2014 04:40:53 -0700 (PDT)
Subject:Re: [Cdt-l] Custom POIs

Map & Compass? Mini Mart

 FROM: Larry Swearingen 
TO: Mary Kwart ; cdt-l at backcountry.net 
SENT: Saturday, March 29, 2014 6:13 AM
SUBJECT: Re: [Cdt-l] Custom POIs

   Hi Mary, I agree that this Garmin GPS thing gets really frustrating
sometimes. I think the only reason that I’ve sort of “figured it
out” is that I am insanely stubborn.   {:>) It appears that I have
a mix of Way Points and Custom POIs loaded. At least when I select
Waypoint Manager the WPs show up but only up through Segment 17-@@@@.
From there north I’ll have to rely on the POIs that I have loaded.
To get to my POIs I select Where to>Extras> A List of all Custom POI
Databases>NM_2014B This takes me to a list of all the POIs for the
Bear Creek “Official Route”. There’s also a NM_ALTB  that is
the Alternate Routes POIs.  Like GR_   Ghost Ranch or PT_   Pie
Town route  When you select one of these POIs it’ll take you to
the Map Where all the POIs and Waypoints show up. Alternatively if you
Select one of the POIs it will take you to the map and you can press
the Menu Button and select “Review Point” you will see the
Infomation Page for that POI. I also have Tracks loaded for the
Alternates AND the whole CDNST.  At this time I can’t remember
where I got those. I loaded the Custom POIs through Base Camp and it
sent them to my removable mini SD Card in the gps.   Larry Swearingen
     FROM: Mary Kwart [1]  SENT: Friday, March 28, 2014 10:16 PM TO:
cdt-l at backcountry.net [2]  SUBJECT: [Cdt-l] Custom POIs   I am hiking
the New Mexico section of the CDT this spring. I use a Garmin etrex 30
and loaded the Bear Creek CDT POIs for New Mexico using POI loader
into my GPS internal memory. I bought a Garmin map card last year for
Arizona and New Mexico and didn't want to have to buy more maps or go
through the hassle of downloading free maps to the internal memory. So
I was stuck with using only the internal memory to save CDT data.

This is just an FYI--something I didn't know about custom POIs: you
can't access them through the "All POIS" choice, but have to go
through "Where to"--"Extras" to select them from the first menu
choices. On top of that--all of the POIs will not show up (which made
me paranoid). This is because, unlike Waypoints, the GPS will only let
you scroll through the custom POIs that are closest to your present
location. SO--I only could scroll through BC segment 19 POIs. I
thought the rest of the POIs were not there. Base Camp showed them as
being in my internal memory, though.  There is no documentation for
this in the etrex owner's manual. I called Garmin support and found
out that you can only directly scroll through the custom POIs closest
to your present location. SO--segment 19 was closest to my location in
Oregon. The other POIs were in the GPS, just not displayed for me to
scroll through.

To see the rest of your custom POIs on your GPS you have to select
"Where to", then hit the menu button and use the "search near"
function to choose a waypoint, map point, or recent find to allow your
GPS to display custom POIs that are not near your current location.
SO--my paranoia has resulted in new knowledge for me.

Oh yeah--the BC POIs for New Mexico appear to be less than 2000. So
the waypoins for NM should be able to be loaded without turning them
into POIs--useful for those only doing NM now. I am too burned out on
dealing with my GPS to try this, but may before I leave for Tucson
(April 7). Waypoints are a lot easier to deal with than POIs--they
display on your GPS map without having to query each one individually.
I told the Garmin support guy that there should be some way a user of
POI loader or Basecamp can know how many points are in the file before
they download it to their GPS. POI Loader tells you how many POIs are
downloaded only after you down load the file to your GPS. Basecamp
doesn't tell you anything at all. If anyone knows anything different
please tell me. When I talked to the Garmin support guy, he admitted
that they are ill equipped to deal with the needs of long distance
hikers who use thousands of waypoints. One Garmin support guy didn't
even know what custom POIs were.

I can feel people's eyes glazing over at this, but the devil is in the
details, as usual. It will be a relief to actually get on the trail.


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