[Cdt-l] Custom POIs

Bob Sartini bobsartini at gmail.com
Sun Mar 30 07:38:04 CDT 2014

Nor do they care. And unfortunately the people who backpack like us
AND understand how the technology works don't seem to speak in a
language some of us can understand. Personally I glaze over very
quickly when reading what appear to others to be very precise
directions. I got it done a year ago and have no idea how.

But I think Bear Creek will load it all up for you. Check the web page.

On Sun, Mar 30, 2014 at 1:26 AM, Mary Kwart <mkwart at gci.net> wrote:
>  Well--the trouble isn't using GPS in the field, that is easy, the problem
> is downloading the stuff beforehand with lousy documentation for the gadgets
> we use and the way we use them. I also carry a compass, which I have used
> since the 70's, but using a GPS in the field is like driving a Porsche over
> the compass Volkswagen. Much faster to locate yourself. GPS companies just
> aren't geared to our type of use, but to the needs of people geocaching and
> doing low mileage trips.
> --Fireweed
> ----- Original Message -----
> From:
> "Eric White" <ericshawwhite at yahoo.com>
> To:
> "Larry Swearingen" <larry.swearingen at frontier.com>, "Mary Kwart"
> <mkwart at gci.net>, "cdt-l at backcountry.net" <cdt-l at backcountry.net>
> Cc:
> Sent:
> Sat, 29 Mar 2014 04:40:53 -0700 (PDT)
> Subject:
> Re: [Cdt-l] Custom POIs
> Map & Compass? Mini Mart
> ________________________________
> From: Larry Swearingen <larry.swearingen at frontier.com>
> To: Mary Kwart <mkwart at gci.net>; cdt-l at backcountry.net
> Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2014 6:13 AM
> Subject: Re: [Cdt-l] Custom POIs
> Hi Mary,
> I agree that this Garmin GPS thing gets really frustrating sometimes.
> I think the only reason that I've sort of "figured it out" is that I am
> insanely stubborn.   {:>)
> It appears that I have a mix of Way Points and Custom POIs loaded.
> At least when I select Waypoint Manager the WPs show up but only
> up through Segment 17-@@@@.
> From there north I'll have to rely on the POIs that I have loaded.
> To get to my POIs I select Where to>Extras> A List of all Custom POI
> Databases>NM_2014B
> This takes me to a list of all the POIs for the Bear Creek "Official Route".
> There's also a NM_ALTB  that is the Alternate Routes POIs.  Like GR_   Ghost
> Ranch
> or PT_   Pie Town route.  When you select one of these POIs it'll take you
> to the Map
> Where all the POIs and Waypoints show up.
> Alternatively if you Select one of the POIs it will take you to the map and
> you can press the Menu Button
> and select "Review Point" you will see the Infomation Page for that POI.
> I also have Tracks loaded for the Alternates AND the whole CDNST.  At this
> time I can't
> remember where I got those.
> I loaded the Custom POIs through Base Camp and it sent them to my removable
> mini SD Card
> in the gps.
> Larry Swearingen
> From: Mary Kwart
> Sent: Friday, March 28, 2014 10:16 PM
> To: cdt-l at backcountry.net
> Subject: [Cdt-l] Custom POIs
> I am hiking the New Mexico section of the CDT this spring. I use a Garmin
> etrex 30 and loaded the Bear Creek CDT POIs for New Mexico using POI loader
> into my GPS internal memory. I bought a Garmin map card last year for
> Arizona and New Mexico and didn't want to have to buy more maps or go
> through the hassle of downloading free maps to the internal memory. So I was
> stuck with using only the internal memory to save CDT data.
> This is just an FYI--something I didn't know about custom POIs: you can't
> access them through the "All POIS" choice, but have to go through "Where
> to"--"Extras" to select them from the first menu choices. On top of
> that--all of the POIs will not show up (which made me paranoid). This is
> because, unlike Waypoints, the GPS will only let you scroll through the
> custom POIs that are closest to your present location. SO--I only could
> scroll through BC segment 19 POIs. I thought the rest of the POIs were not
> there Base Camp showed them as being in my internal memory, though.  There
> is no documentation for this in the etrex owner's manual. I called Garmin
> support and found out that you can only directly scroll through the custom
> POIs closest to your present location. SO--segment 19 was closest to my
> location in Oregon. The other POIs were in the GPS, just not displayed for
> me to scroll through.
> To see the rest of your custom POIs on your GPS you have to select "Where
> to", then hit the menu button and use the "search near" function to choose a
> waypoint, map point, or recent find to allow your GPS to display custom POIs
> that are not near your current location. SO--my paranoia has resulted in new
> knowledge for me.
> Oh yeah--the BC POIs for New Mexico appear to be less than 2000. So the
> waypoins for NM should be able to be loaded without turning them into
> POIs--useful for those only doing NM now. I am too burned out on dealing
> with my GPS to try this, but may before I leave for Tucson (April 7).
> Waypoints are a lot easier to deal with than POIs--they display on your GPS
> map without having to query each one individually. I told the Garmin support
> guy that there should be some way a user of POI loader or Basecamp can know
> how many points are in the file before they download it to their GPS. POI
> Loader tells you how many POIs are downloaded only after you down load the
> file to your GPS. Basecamp doesn't tell you anything at all If anyone knows
> anything different please tell me. When I talked to the Garmin support guy,
> he admitted that they are ill equipped to deal with the needs of long
> distance hikers who use thousands of waypoints. One Garmin support guy
> didn't even know what custom POIs were.
> I can feel people's eyes glazing over at this, but the devil is in the
> details, as usual. It will be a relief to actually get on the trail.
> --Fireweed
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