[Cdt-l] Guns and hiking

michelle bracht mbracht at live.com
Sat Aug 15 16:17:17 CDT 2015



I recently met an avid proponent of gun control while hiking a section of the cdt. That is easy to be if you are an unattractive guy with no outward signs of wealth. As a female solo hiker who grew up in the Adirondack mountains during David Garro's reign of terror, I can promise you that bears are not the reason I carry a gun. I also frequently get asked if I carry a gun and my answer is always "of course ".  I know that the people asking are only concerned for my safety.
Michelle




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Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2015 12:58:24 -0400
From: Jim and_or Ginny Owen <spiriteagle99 at hotmail.com>
To: BCSS <bcss at bresnan.net>, "DayLate07 ." <dthibaul07 at gmail.com>
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Not necessarily so.  If you shoot a bear with the RIGHT gun in the RIGHT place, it'll be dead.  And you'll probably spend at least a week trying to explain the "authorities" why you shot it.  A week is a lot of hiking time to be spending on paperwork.
RIGHT gun - is one that's heavier than you want to carry.
The RIGHT place - isn't visible if you're being charged by the bear.
OTOH - it IS legal to carry the gun, just not advisable.  Or smart.
Also - the question (Are you carrying a gun?) has probably been asked of every thruhiker in history.  Multiple times.  Deal with it.
Jim

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From: bcss at bresnan.net
Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2015 20:13:04 -0600
To: dthibaul07 at gmail.com
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Subject: Re: [Cdt-l] Cdt-l Digest, Vol 95, Issue 7

If you shoot a bear with a gun it's going to get really pissed off.

best wishes, Jerry BrownBear Creek Survey Service, LLC3065 East 2nd AvenueDurango, CO 81301(970) 403-3527   cell: (970) 317-1398bcss at bresnan.netwww.bearcreeksurvey.com
On Aug 9, 2015, at 5:47 PM, DayLate07 . <dthibaul07 at gmail.com> wrote:

Sad to hear about this, it is really tragic.

But especially since now I will get asked yet again by all my concerned friends and co-workers if I plan to carry a gun when I hike thru this section of the CDT (sigh)....

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Subject: [Cdt-l] Bear Kills Hiker in Yellowstone

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Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2015 12:05:40 -0600
From: Jeff Jones <jjonz at dc.rr.com>
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Montana bear handgun joke:

Q: What's the perfect handgun to shoot a bear with?
A: One that's greased up and sights removed.  That way after you shoot
the bear, when the bear takes the gun away from you and shoves it up
your a**, it doesn't hurt so much.

             Jeff Jones
              new to the list and living a mile of the CDT near West
Yellowstone

On 8/15/2015 10:58 AM, Jim and_or Ginny Owen wrote:
> Not necessarily so.  If you shoot a bear with the RIGHT gun in the
> RIGHT place, it'll be dead.  And you'll probably spend at least a week
> trying to explain the "authorities" why you shot it.  A week is a lot
> of hiking time to be spending on paperwork.
>
> RIGHT gun - is one that's heavier than you want to carry.
>
> The RIGHT place - isn't visible if you're being charged by the bear.
>
> OTOH - it IS legal to carry the gun, just not advisable. Or smart.
>
> Also - the question (Are you carrying a gun?) has probably been asked
> of every thruhiker in history.  Multiple times. Deal with it.
>
> Jim
>
> http://www.spiriteaglehome.com/
>
>
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> From: bcss at bresnan.net
> Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2015 20:13:04 -0600
> To: dthibaul07 at gmail.com
> CC: cdt-l at backcountry.net
> Subject: Re: [Cdt-l] Cdt-l Digest, Vol 95, Issue 7
>
> If you shoot a bear with a gun it's going to get really pissed off.
>
> best wishes,
>
> Jerry Brown
>
> Bear Creek Survey Service, LLC
>
> 3065 East 2nd Avenue
>
> Durango, CO 81301
>
> (970) 403-3527   cell: (970) 317-1398
>
> bcss at bresnan.net
>
> www.bearcreeksurvey.com
>
>
> On Aug 9, 2015, at 5:47 PM, DayLate07 . <dthibaul07 at gmail.com
> <mailto:dthibaul07 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     Sad to hear about this, it is really tragic.
>
>
>     But especially since now I will get asked yet again by all my
>     concerned friends and co-workers if I plan to carry a gun when I
>     hike thru this section of the CDT (sigh)....
>
>
>     Day-Late
>
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