[Cdt-l] Guns and hiking

William Hersman mcak at gci.net
Mon Aug 17 17:53:56 CDT 2015


Did you mean Robert Garrow?  Garrow killed my high school friend and girlfriend on the AT in 1972.

Willy Hersman
CDT 1980
PCT 1978

On Aug 15, 2015, at 3:17 PM, michelle bracht wrote:

I recently met an avid proponent of gun control while hiking a section of the cdt. That is easy to be if you are an unattractive guy with no outward signs of wealth. As a female solo hiker who grew up in the Adirondack mountains during David Garro's reign of terror, I can promise you that bears are not the reason I carry a gun. 
I also frequently get asked if I carry a gun and my answer is always "of course ".  I know that the people asking are only concerned for my safety. 

Michelle 





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Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2015 12:58:24 -0400
From: Jim and_or Ginny Owen <spiriteagle99 at hotmail.com>
To: BCSS <bcss at bresnan.net>, "DayLate07 ." <dthibaul07 at gmail.com>
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Not necessarily so.  If you shoot a bear with the RIGHT gun in the RIGHT place, it'll be dead.  And you'll probably spend at least a week trying to explain the "authorities" why you shot it.  A week is a lot of hiking time to be spending on paperwork.  
RIGHT gun - is one that's heavier than you want to carry. 
The RIGHT place - isn't visible if you're being charged by the bear. 
OTOH - it IS legal to carry the gun, just not advisable.  Or smart. 
Also - the question (Are you carrying a gun?) has probably been asked of every thruhiker in history.  Multiple times.  Deal with it.  
Jim

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From: bcss at bresnan.net
Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2015 20:13:04 -0600
To: dthibaul07 at gmail.com
CC: cdt-l at backcountry.net
Subject: Re: [Cdt-l] Cdt-l Digest, Vol 95, Issue 7

If you shoot a bear with a gun it's going to get really pissed off.  

best wishes, Jerry BrownBear Creek Survey Service, LLC3065 East 2nd AvenueDurango, CO 81301(970) 403-3527   cell: (970) 317-1398bcss at bresnan.netwww.bearcreeksurvey.com  
On Aug 9, 2015, at 5:47 PM, DayLate07 . <dthibaul07 at gmail.com> wrote:

Sad to hear about this, it is really tragic.  

But especially since now I will get asked yet again by all my concerned friends and co-workers if I plan to carry a gun when I hike thru this section of the CDT (sigh)....

Day-Late
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Montana bear handgun joke:

Q: What's the perfect handgun to shoot a bear with?
A: One that's greased up and sights removed.  That way after you shoot 
the bear, when the bear takes the gun away from you and shoves it up 
your a**, it doesn't hurt so much.

             Jeff Jones
              new to the list and living a mile of the CDT near West 
Yellowstone

On 8/15/2015 10:58 AM, Jim and_or Ginny Owen wrote:
> Not necessarily so.  If you shoot a bear with the RIGHT gun in the 
> RIGHT place, it'll be dead.  And you'll probably spend at least a week 
> trying to explain the "authorities" why you shot it.  A week is a lot 
> of hiking time to be spending on paperwork.
>
> RIGHT gun - is one that's heavier than you want to carry.
>
> The RIGHT place - isn't visible if you're being charged by the bear.
>
> OTOH - it IS legal to carry the gun, just not advisable. Or smart.
>
> Also - the question (Are you carrying a gun?) has probably been asked 
> of every thruhiker in history.  Multiple times. Deal with it.
>
> Jim
>
> http://www.spiriteaglehome.com/
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> From: bcss at bresnan.net
> Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2015 20:13:04 -0600
> To: dthibaul07 at gmail.com
> CC: cdt-l at backcountry.net
> Subject: Re: [Cdt-l] Cdt-l Digest, Vol 95, Issue 7
>
> If you shoot a bear with a gun it's going to get really pissed off.
>
> best wishes,
>
> Jerry Brown
>
> Bear Creek Survey Service, LLC
>
> 3065 East 2nd Avenue
>
> Durango, CO 81301
>
> (970) 403-3527   cell: (970) 317-1398
>
> bcss at bresnan.net
>
> www.bearcreeksurvey.com
>
>
> On Aug 9, 2015, at 5:47 PM, DayLate07 . <dthibaul07 at gmail.com 
> <mailto:dthibaul07 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     Sad to hear about this, it is really tragic.
>
>
>     But especially since now I will get asked yet again by all my
>     concerned friends and co-workers if I plan to carry a gun when I
>     hike thru this section of the CDT (sigh)....
>
>
>     Day-Late
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