[Cdt-l] Cdt-l Digest, Vol 90, Issue 5

Jon Phipps jonaphipps at hotmail.com
Wed Mar 4 18:26:03 CST 2015


Subj.:  Coolibar Umbrella
Costs $45, some 50% more'n a C,.Dome & weighs a couple oz. more.  However, it has a 2-canopy design like better golf umbrellas; no doubt can take higher winds.
My C. Dome was inverted often on the PCT; finally broke beyond repair at Kennedy Meadows Rd., so I could jettison the now-worthless item at the store.
I'm thinkin' umbrella, Mex. 'til one reaches the Gila.
Happy 
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>    1. umbrellas (michael vernon)
>    2. Re: umbrellas (Doug Carlson)
>    3. Re: umbrellas (BCSS)
>    4. Re: umbrellas (Tony Mason)
>    5. Re: Doc Campbells and increasing hiker numbers (Brett)
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> From: michael vernon <woodsfarmer at gmail.com>
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> Subject: [Cdt-l] umbrellas
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> hi,  i've used my chrome dome a few times and know some folks like the idea
> of using it in nm.   i din't want to drag too much stuff with me.
>  opinions?  i leave cc april 17.  thanks-----m
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> From: "Doug Carlson" <doug-sue at centurylink.net>
> To: "'michael vernon'" <woodsfarmer at gmail.com>,	"'cdt-l'"
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> First, my chrome dome umbrella broke a spoke the first day out from CC last year.  that said, there are a lot of places between CC and Silver City where the small amount of shade it provides in the hot of the day worth the weight.  
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> -Trew
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> hi,  i've used my chrome dome a few times and know some folks like the idea of using it in nm.   i din't want to drag too much stuff with me.  opinions?  i leave cc april 17.  thanks-----m
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> From: BCSS <bcss at bresnan.net>
> To: michael vernon <woodsfarmer at gmail.com>
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> I think it might be very helpful from CC to Silver City. After that, not so much and I personally would send it home. 
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> best wishes,
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> Jerry Brown
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> From: Tony Mason <tony at greyrock.org>
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> I found it useful in the Great Divide Basin in WY. Would have been nice for
> all the rain and snow in MT but I had all ready sent it home.
> -Tony
> On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 12:27 PM, michael vernon <woodsfarmer at gmail.com>
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> > hi,  i've used my chrome dome a few times and know some folks like the
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> >  opinions?  i leave cc april 17.  thanks-----m
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> From: Brett <blisterfree at yahoo.com>
> To: Bob Sartini <bobsartini at gmail.com>, 	Continental Divide Trail
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> Subject: Re: [Cdt-l] Doc Campbells and increasing hiker numbers
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> What if all 200 boxes showed up at the same time, followed en masse by the hikers intent on claiming them? Is that what we're up against this year? For the sake of preserving the status quo, I sure hope not.
> Brett
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>       From: Bob Sartini <bobsartini at gmail.com>
>  To: Brett <blisterfree at yahoo.com> 
> Cc: Continental Divide Trail <cdt-l at backcountry.net> 
>  Sent: Sunday, March 1, 2015 5:54 AM
>  Subject: Re: [Cdt-l] Doc Campbells and increasing hiker numbers
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> I thought they charged five bucks a box.? Even 200 boxes, that's real money. I don't know what a hiker might do accept make a suggestion to Paul. (is there a Doc?) The people on the ground are they only ones who can do this.? For most , this is a one time fly by, there isn't really a "we" unless the CDTA chimes in. I'll call them from Vermont and all former hikers should call them and say "charge six bucks"!) ?Since I also spent another $25 bucks on shower and laundry and food. I think he's happy we show up. Most of his customers look around, buy a coke and leave. He loves hikers.
> On Sat, Feb 28, 2015 at 2:31 AM, Brett <blisterfree at yahoo.com> wrote:
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> Last spring Doc Campbell's Post in Gila Hot Springs saw a huge increase in the number of hikers and held packages, to the point where the stairwell storage area inside the store was reportedly overflowing, a veritable free-for-all, and a potential drain on owner Paul's time and good will. Since Doc Campbells is purely an arrangement of convenience, and given the lack of resupply alternatives in this extended stretch of Gila country, what can the trail community do (or what are we doing) to ensure the continued availability of this important service?
> Has anyone encouraged management to post (or increase) a maildrop hold fee? (a very reasonable gesture given that all boxes and refuse must be packed out to Silver City by Paul).?
> Could we explore additional storage space arrangements, ie. has anyone given management a heads up to expect an ever-increasing amount of hiker traffic and boxes this year and in subsequent years?
> Having this dialog now could help to prevent any sudden, unpleasant surprises down the line. Obviously we're business, though I'm not at all certain how much that matters in the grand scheme. What we need to be, foremostly, is good stewards of the resource. Part of this is making an efficient transaction of ourselves, something that can continue to scale up for the foreseeable future. Doc Campbells is a no-neediness zone; they're not in the gig to coddle hikers or put up with nonsense. I think we're best off taking no offense at this, but instead recognizing the value of the current arrangement for what it is, an essential part of a CDT or GET resupply plan.
> Brett
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