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<DIV><FONT size=2>We found the river crossings on the CDT to be less scary than
the PCT. That is probably because of our timing. We crossed the Sierra
during high snow melt in 2000 and experienced high water at crossings. We
crossed together with poles we picked up near the crossings. We
hiked the CDT northbound in 2002 and we had no serious stream crossings. We
were literally a day ahead of Glacier NP picking up the bridges for the winter.
The one crossing (in Wyoming ?) that was noted as dangerous turned out to be a
nothing.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>Ken</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=Bill@Luttge.com href="mailto:Bill@Luttge.com">Bill</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=spiriteagle99@hotmail.com
href="mailto:spiriteagle99@hotmail.com">'Jim and_or Ginny Owen'</A> ; <A
title=prairiesky@yahoo.com
href="mailto:prairiesky@yahoo.com">prairiesky@yahoo.com</A> ; <A
title=cdt-l@backcountry.net href="mailto:cdt-l@backcountry.net">'cdt-l'</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, December 17, 2009 8:40
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Cdt-l] finding a function's
definition from a call</DIV>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">I’m only 5’4” and 65
yo, so I’m finding this discussion on river crossing techniques and
experiences to be very informative. I’ve already completed a number of
long thru-hikes (including the PCT), but the prospects of big rivers on my CDT
nobo thru-hike this Spring has me concerned.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial Narrow'; COLOR: green; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Follow
my hiking and backpacking <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial Narrow'; COLOR: green; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">adventures
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT size=2 face=Tahoma><SPAN
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size=2 face=Tahoma><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <A
href="mailto:cdt-l-bounces@backcountry.net">cdt-l-bounces@backcountry.net</A>
[mailto:cdt-l-bounces@backcountry.net] <B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On
Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Jim and_or Ginny Owen<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Thursday, December 17, 2009 11:18
AM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> prairiesky@yahoo.com;
cdt-l<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [Cdt-l]
finding a function's definition from a call</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT size=2 face=Verdana><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Verdana; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">I'm 5' 6". We hiked south on our
first thruhike and had some problems with snowmelt in the Bob, but nothing
that we couldn't deal with. (See our 1999 journal.) In one case we
headed upstream to avoid a double crossing. The detour was probably
worse than the crossing would have been. In another case we looked at a
map and found a road that we could follow that would take us around the bad
crossing. One of the bad crossings now has a bridge (or it did in
2006). We were in Glacier after the bridges had been put up, except one,
so that wasn't a problem for us. Our worst crossings were thigh high -
nothing higher than that. If the water was going so fast that I couldn't
keep my hiking stick solidly planted, we found a better place to
cross.<BR> <BR>As to crossing technique: Jim and I cross arm in
arm, with him upstream to break the force of the water. We cross sort of
like you do a three legged race: only one person moves at a time, with
the other acting as anchor. We both use hiking sticks as well for better
balance. We have been swept off our feet, even so, but usually only for the
time it takes for the person being swept to get their footing again.
<BR> <BR>Snowmelt is cold. Keep your shoes on. When you can't
feel your feet, it is easy to step on sharp rocks and not know it until you
have
been cut.<BR> <BR>Ginny<BR><BR>http://www.spiriteaglehome.com/<BR><BR><BR> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt" class=MsoNormal><FONT size=2 face=Verdana><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Verdana; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 05:28:18
-0800<BR>From: prairiesky@yahoo.com<BR>To: cdt-l@backcountry.net<BR>Subject:
Re: [Cdt-l] finding a function's definition from a
call<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT size=3 face="Times New Roman"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Okay, Jonathan tells me that flip-flops get your feet
wet and get torn off in moving water ;). Now are there any short folks
out there &/or women out there on this list who can tell me of their
experiences? :-D. My original plans were to do a sobo trip.
I'm not afraid of getting my feet wet. But carrying 30+ lbs on my back
up to my chest is something I would be concerned about in running and cold
waters. If I can still plan this, that would be great. If I can do
enough exploring to find shallower areas, that would be terrific. I've
read journal upon journal. Mostly I've read journals from guys who are
5'7" or more. My son, who will be walking with me is about 5'11".
But still, a crossing for a 5'7" person puts the water they experienced at
waist up to my armpits. I'm short but strong. I was a water safety
instructor years and years ago, so I do have a healthy respect for
water. I take risks, but I'm not going to take a risk that is life
threatening. I've been in fast moving flood waters up to my knees and
using a pole, that might not have been so unnerving. I didn't have a
pole since I was just on my way to my car at the time, lol. And? I
was flat out ignorant at the time. But that gush of water gave me a
quick education!<BR><BR>I've read about creek crossing techniques, however
reading is no substitute for experience. Hmmmm.<BR><BR>Ideas?
Help?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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