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Hey Otter,<br>
<br>
Congratulations, you're almost finished. <br>
<br>
Besides the Black Range, I know there's several ways of doing the
Gila (Wolf, Ley, Other) but attempting to find a ball park figure,
or average, does anyone know how much longer is the Black Range
route from where the trails diverge near Gila Hot Springes to where
they hook back up again? I guesstimated 40 miles but another source
I saw appeared to be much Longer. <br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
<br>
Sly<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 12/19/2012 1:17 PM, Stephen
Olshansky wrote:<br>
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<blockquote
cite="mid:5DE4C50D-2641-4992-9F75-DFF9A564374D@yahoo.com"
type="cite">
<div><span class="Apple-style-span"
style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26,
0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227,
0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180,
0.230469); font-size: medium; "><span>Just finished up black
range loop from silver city. </span></span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color:
rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color:
rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469);
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font-size: medium; "><br>
</span><span class="Apple-style-span"
style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26,
0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227,
0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180,
0.230469); font-size: medium; "><span>It was almost 100 mile
walk to get back up there to where the trail cuts east. </span></span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color:
rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color:
rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469);
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font-size: medium; "><br>
</span><span class="Apple-style-span"
style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26,
0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227,
0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180,
0.230469); font-size: medium; "><span>There are two types of
"tanks" </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span"
style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26,
0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227,
0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180,
0.230469); font-size: medium; "><br>
</span><span class="Apple-style-span"
style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26,
0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227,
0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180,
0.230469); font-size: medium; "><span>There is the manmade
vessel tank made out of stone, metal, plastic, etc....</span></span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color:
rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color:
rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469);
-webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469);
font-size: medium; "><br>
</span><span class="Apple-style-span"
style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26,
0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227,
0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180,
0.230469); font-size: medium; "><span>Then there is the
"puddle tank" where there is a collection area for water
runoff. </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span"
style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26,
0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227,
0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180,
0.230469); font-size: medium; "><br>
</span><span class="Apple-style-span"
style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26,
0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227,
0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180,
0.230469); font-size: medium; "><span>The former is always
better then the latter. I found no puddle tanks that one
would drink other then in a dire emergency. These are just
too foul. </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span"
style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26,
0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227,
0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180,
0.230469); font-size: medium; "><br>
</span><span class="Apple-style-span"
style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26,
0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227,
0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180,
0.230469); font-size: medium; "><span></span></span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color:
rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color:
rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469);
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font-size: medium; "><br>
</span><span class="Apple-style-span"
style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26,
0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227,
0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180,
0.230469); font-size: medium; "><span>Greenish water from
manmade tanks compared to brown poop water from puddles.</span></span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color:
rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color:
rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469);
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font-size: medium; "><br>
</span><span class="Apple-style-span"
style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26,
0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227,
0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180,
0.230469); font-size: medium; "><span>The muddy collection
areas are poop collectors.. Every time it rains all the cow
and horse and herd dog poop gets washed downhill into the
puddle and evaporation then condenses it. One of these was
down to just a few gallons left and if you saw what was left
at end you wouldnt want to consume it I assure you. There is
no circulation or water change over in the puddle tanks. </span></span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color:
rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color:
rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469);
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font-size: medium; "><br>
</span><span class="Apple-style-span"
style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26,
0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227,
0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180,
0.230469); font-size: medium; "><span>I tried once at the
"deadman tank at the "ley ok corral"</span></span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color:
rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color:
rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469);
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font-size: medium; "><br>
</span><span class="Apple-style-span"
style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26,
0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227,
0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180,
0.230469); font-size: medium; "><span>Surprised I am still
alive and don't have weird growths all over me:)</span></span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color:
rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color:
rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469);
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font-size: medium; "><br>
</span><span class="Apple-style-span"
style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26,
0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227,
0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180,
0.230469); font-size: medium; "><span>Don't want to try that
again.....</span></span><span class="Apple-style-span"
style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26,
0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227,
0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180,
0.230469); font-size: medium; "><br>
</span><span class="Apple-style-span"
style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26,
0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227,
0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180,
0.230469); font-size: medium; "><span>Manmade tanks are far
better because there is no cow or horse poop in them and the
water is replenished and refreshed. The only critters I can
see that can get into these tanks are birds. Their poop
falls into the tank increasing the nitrogen content
producing an algae bloom and hence the greenish tinge. </span></span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color:
rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color:
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font-size: medium; "><br>
</span><span class="Apple-style-span"
style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26,
0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227,
0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180,
0.230469); font-size: medium; "><span>Coming east from coyote
peak I recommend the greenwood well. Which is about .7miles
off the trail. YOU CANNOT SEE IT FROM THE TRAIL it's a wind
mll tank set up </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span"
style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26,
0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227,
0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180,
0.230469); font-size: medium; "><br>
</span><span class="Apple-style-span"
style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26,
0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227,
0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180,
0.230469); font-size: medium; "><span>This time of year some
of the windmill fans have been pulled down maybe for the
winter but there is still water there usually. </span></span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color:
rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color:
rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469);
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font-size: medium; "><br>
</span><span class="Apple-style-span"
style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26,
0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227,
0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180,
0.230469); font-size: medium; "><span>The Garcia windmill is
biggest I've seen and it's tank had water and whoever built
it the new steel tank was wise enough to face the dispense
trough to the south where it melts enough to obtain liquid
h20. Otherwise it would have just been ice. The herds of
deer and elk know this and come into drink right at dark
cause they know in a couple of hours it will be frozen
solid. </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span"
style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26,
0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227,
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0.230469); font-size: medium; "><br>
</span><span class="Apple-style-span"
style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26,
0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227,
0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180,
0.230469); font-size: medium; "><span>Only 4 miles or so east
of Garcia is a contraption I call the "double dish" you will
see it. From the trail. Its an above ground cement cylinder
with a big old concave sat dish set atop to collect water.
There is a valve under wooden box to release water into a
dish about 30 feet downhill. Since it was below zero the
night before at Garcia I think it was simply frozen solid.</span></span><span
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</span><span class="Apple-style-span"
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0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227,
0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180,
0.230469); font-size: medium; "><span>Winston store during
this slow time of year had </span></span><span
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rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color:
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</span><span class="Apple-style-span"
style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26,
0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227,
0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180,
0.230469); font-size: medium; "><span>Peanut butter jelly and
nuts and big bags of chips</span></span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color:
rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color:
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font-size: medium; "><br>
</span><span class="Apple-style-span"
style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26,
0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227,
0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180,
0.230469); font-size: medium; "><span>Packs of cold cuts and
packs of tuna deviled ham and large wheat tortillas. Bacon
and eggs. </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span"
style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26,
0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227,
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0.230469); font-size: medium; "><br>
</span><span class="Apple-style-span"
style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26,
0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227,
0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180,
0.230469); font-size: medium; "><span>Looked to be a little
light on liptons and dinners they did have minute rice. Send
yourself a box. </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span"
style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26,
0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227,
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0.230469); font-size: medium; "><br>
</span><span class="Apple-style-span"
style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26,
0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227,
0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180,
0.230469); font-size: medium; "><span>Jerry Brown said he saw
a Mexican Wolf in the blacks and I believe him. One of only
58 known in the state according to the wildlife biologist I
spoke to at length about them informed me. About 12 packs.
They are in jeopardy because of the collars they wear. They
have found a couple shot and they believe someone might be
using the signal to hunt them down. She believes the
uncollared ones if there are any might save them. Everywhere
one goes in Winston you see the stickers "No Wolves" locals
don't want em. </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span"
style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26,
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0.230469); font-size: medium; "><br>
</span><span class="Apple-style-span"
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0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227,
0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180,
0.230469); font-size: medium; "><span>We had a big winter
storm and another today so I dropped down east a little
lower and made my way back to silver city </span></span><span
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</span><span class="Apple-style-span"
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0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227,
0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180,
0.230469); font-size: medium; "><span>So no water report from
52/59 south. </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span"
style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26,
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</span><span class="Apple-style-span"
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0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227,
0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180,
0.230469); font-size: medium; "><span>It's a little late in
the season. </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span"
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</span><span class="Apple-style-span"
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0.230469); font-size: medium; "><span>Thanks to all on CDT-L
for all the help and info this year. </span></span><span
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</span><span class="Apple-style-span"
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0.230469); font-size: medium; "><span>Be 7 months for me soon
and it's been a great hike. </span></span><span
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0.230469); font-size: medium; "><span>Nothing left to do but
finish up....</span></span><span class="Apple-style-span"
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