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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#0D0D0D'>Omega to Pietown is not built yet. You would have to walk along the highway. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#0D0D0D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#0D0D0D'>best wishes,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#0D0D0D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#0D0D0D'>Jerry Brown<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#0D0D0D'><a href="mailto:bcss@bresnan.net"><span style='color:blue'>mailto:bcss@bresnan.net</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#0D0D0D'><a href="www.bearcreeksurvey.com"><span style='color:blue'>www.bearcreeksurvey.com</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#0D0D0D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Doug Carlson [mailto:doug-sue@centurylink.net] <br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, February 11, 2013 8:15 PM<br><b>To:</b> bcss@bresnan.net<br><b>Cc:</b> Cdt-l@backcountry.net<br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [Cdt-l] waypoints Sam Huges water Caches?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>So is the new trail between Omega and Pie Town now in place? <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>I would love to hike it. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>following US-60 into AZ it drops south before making its way into Phoenix and passes through my area about 19 miles north of where I live in Florence. US-60 is a very scenic route but I am not really interested in walking any more of it than necessary.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:bcss@bresnan.net">bcss@bresnan.net</a> [<a href="mailto:bcss@bresnan.net">mailto:bcss@bresnan.net</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, February 11, 2013 6:22 PM<br><b>To:</b> 'Doug Carlson'; <a href="mailto:Cdt-l@backcountry.net">Cdt-l@backcountry.net</a><br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [Cdt-l] waypoints Sam Huges water Caches?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#0D0D0D'>One of the big goals of the CDT is to be non-motorized. That is why the new route was developed – to put hikers on trail instead of road. Good news is that the route will eventually include new trail from near Omega connecting to Pietown, so that town will always be part of the trail. I have done both the new trail and the road walk and the new trail is definitely nicer. If I were doing the trail for the first time I think I would hike to Omega then follow the highway to Pietown. There is new trail planned from Pietown to the Malpais that will be spectacular. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#0D0D0D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#0D0D0D'>best wishes,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#0D0D0D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#0D0D0D'>Jerry Brown<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#0D0D0D'>(970) 403-3527 Cell: (970) 749-0496<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#0D0D0D'><a href="mailto:bcss@bresnan.net">mailto:bcss@bresnan.net</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#0D0D0D'><a href="www.bearcreeksurvey.com">www.bearcreeksurvey.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#0D0D0D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Doug Carlson [<a href="mailto:doug-sue@centurylink.net">mailto:doug-sue@centurylink.net</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, February 11, 2013 5:54 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:Cdt-l@backcountry.net">Cdt-l@backcountry.net</a><br><b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:bcss@bresnan.net">bcss@bresnan.net</a><br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [Cdt-l] waypoints Sam Huges water Caches?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Jerry, your reference to the bearcreek maps and waypoints are a big help.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Those waypoints should get me to Silver City with no problem. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>From there I want to go up through the heart of the Gila Wilderness via Doc Campbells and on to Pie Town. I can't imagine the official route moving away from Pie Town unless there was a really really good reason. I have looked forward to carrying a pack into Pie Town and eating pie for a long time. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>I am feeling more confident about this trip all the time. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Side note: with new gear, maps, food, mailing, travel, a long hike isn't cheap. Can't wait to get going.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>-Trew<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:cdt-l-bounces@backcountry.net">cdt-l-bounces@backcountry.net</a> [<a href="mailto:cdt-l-bounces@backcountry.net">mailto:cdt-l-bounces@backcountry.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b><a href="mailto:bcss@bresnan.net">bcss@bresnan.net</a><br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, February 11, 2013 1:10 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:Cdt-l@backcountry.net">Cdt-l@backcountry.net</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Cdt-l] waypoints Sam Huges water Caches?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#0D0D0D'>Trew,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#0D0D0D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#0D0D0D'>Free waypoint files for the entire CDT (which include the cache boxes) are available here: <a href="www.bearcreeksurvey.com">www.bearcreeksurvey.com</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#0D0D0D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#0D0D0D'>Take the Waypoints link on the main page and you will end up on a page where you can download them. They were all collected with professional grade gps and are quite accurate. There are 6972 waypoints in all for the entire trail route, average spacing a little over ½ mile. They only apply to the official USFS/BLM route for the CDNST so for the many possible alternate hikes such as the Gila River, Winds, or Anaconda cutoff they won’t help, but most of the time you will likely be on the official route. I think Frank’s G’s website may have some helpful data for the alternates. </span><a href="https://www.sites.google.com/site/frankgilliland/cdt">https://www.sites.google.com/site/frankgilliland/cdt</a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#0D0D0D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#0D0D0D'>The Mapbooks are spiral bound collections of 1”=3000’ scale hiker maps that show the official route and all of the waypoints with a high level of accuracy. There is information about them on the front page of the bearcreek website. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#0D0D0D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#0D0D0D'>These are the Waypoint names for the Water Boxes between Crazy Cook and Lordsburg:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#0D0D0D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#0D0D0D'>01_137WT<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#0D0D0D'>01_255WT<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#0D0D0D'>02_194WT<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#0D0D0D'>03_127WT<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#0D0D0D'>04_198WT<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#0D0D0D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#0D0D0D'>There is a considerable amount of water in there in addition to the boxes. (Farm ponds and watering tanks) Any waypoint that ends in “WT” is a place we found water. I would suggest always carrying more than you anticipate needing in there in case one of them is dry or non functional. If you plan for 20 miles between water sources you could do the entire thing just using the cache boxes. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#0D0D0D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#0D0D0D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#0D0D0D'>best wishes,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#0D0D0D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#0D0D0D'>Jerry Brown<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#0D0D0D'><a href="mailto:bcss@bresnan.net">mailto:bcss@bresnan.net</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#0D0D0D'><a href="www.bearcreeksurvey.com">www.bearcreeksurvey.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></body></html>