<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>Here here!</div><div><br></div><div>---Junaid 'Speshul 41' Dawud</div><div><br>On Feb 12, 2013, at 11:00 AM, <a href="mailto:Trekker4@aol.com">Trekker4@aol.com</a> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
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<div><strong>Once again, lets have a standing ovation for all Jerry Brown does
for the CDT!</strong></div>
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<div><font lang="0" size="2" face="Arial" family="SANSSERIF" ptsize="10"><strong>Bob
"Trekker" Brewer<br>Naturalized Citizen - Republic of Texas<br></strong>
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<div>In a message dated 2/11/2013 7:23:13 P.M. Central Standard Time,
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="COLOR: #0d0d0d">One of the big goals of the
CDT is to be non-motorized. That is why the new route was developed – to
put hikers on trail instead of road. Good news is that the route
will eventually include new trail from near Omega connecting to Pietown, so
that town will always be part of the trail. I have done both the new
trail and the road walk and the new trail is definitely nicer. If I were
doing the trail for the first time I think I would hike to Omega then follow
the highway to Pietown. There is new trail planned from Pietown to
the Malpais that will be spectacular.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="COLOR: #0d0d0d">best
wishes,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="COLOR: #0d0d0d"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="COLOR: #0d0d0d">Jerry
Brown<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="COLOR: #0d0d0d">(970)
403-3527 Cell: (970) 749-0496<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">From:</span></b><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> Doug Carlson
[<a href="mailto:doug-sue@centurylink.net">mailto:doug-sue@centurylink.net</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, February 11, 2013
5:54 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:Cdt-l@backcountry.net">Cdt-l@backcountry.net</a><br><b>Cc:</b>
<a href="mailto:bcss@bresnan.net">bcss@bresnan.net</a><br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [Cdt-l] waypoints Sam Huges water
Caches?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="COLOR: #1f497d">Jerry, your reference to
the bearcreek maps and waypoints are a big help.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="COLOR: #1f497d"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="COLOR: #1f497d">Those waypoints should get me
to Silver City with no problem. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="COLOR: #1f497d"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="COLOR: #1f497d">From there I want to go up
through the heart of the Gila Wilderness via Doc Campbells and on to Pie
Town. I can't imagine the official route moving away from Pie Town
unless there was a really really good reason. I have looked forward to
carrying a pack into Pie Town and eating pie for a long time.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="COLOR: #1f497d"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="COLOR: #1f497d">I am feeling more
confident about this trip all the time. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="COLOR: #1f497d"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="COLOR: #1f497d">Side note: with new
gear, maps, food, mailing, travel, a long hike isn't cheap. Can't wait
to get going.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="COLOR: #1f497d">-Trew<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="COLOR: #1f497d"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="COLOR: #1f497d"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="COLOR: #1f497d"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">From:</span></b><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <a title="mailto:cdt-l-bounces@backcountry.net" href="mailto:cdt-l-bounces@backcountry.net">cdt-l-bounces@backcountry.net</a>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b><a title="mailto:bcss@bresnan.net" href="mailto:bcss@bresnan.net">bcss@bresnan.net</a><br><b>Sent:</b> Monday,
February 11, 2013 1:10 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a title="mailto:Cdt-l@backcountry.net" href="mailto:Cdt-l@backcountry.net">Cdt-l@backcountry.net</a><br><b>Subject:</b>
Re: [Cdt-l] waypoints Sam Huges water
Caches?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="COLOR: #0d0d0d">Trew,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="COLOR: #0d0d0d"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="COLOR: #0d0d0d">Free waypoint files for the
entire CDT (which include the cache boxes) are available here: <a title="http://www.bearcreeksurvey.com" href="mip://093ca520/www.bearcreeksurvey.com">www.bearcreeksurvey.com</a>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="COLOR: #0d0d0d"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #0d0d0d">Take the Waypoints
link on the main page and you will end up on a page where you can download
them. They were all collected with professional grade gps and are quite
accurate. There are 6972 waypoints in all for the entire trail route, average
spacing a little over ½ mile. They only apply to the official USFS/BLM
route for the CDNST so for the many possible alternate hikes such as the Gila
River, Winds, or Anaconda cutoff they won’t help, but most of the time you
will likely be on the official route. I think Frank’s G’s website may
have some helpful data for the alternates. </span><a title="https://www.sites.google.com/site/frankgilliland/cdt" href="https://www.sites.google.com/site/frankgilliland/cdt">https://www.sites.google.com/site/frankgilliland/cdt</a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="COLOR: #0d0d0d"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="COLOR: #0d0d0d">The Mapbooks are spiral bound
collections of 1”=3000’ scale hiker maps that show the official route and all
of the waypoints with a high level of accuracy. There is information about
them on the front page of the bearcreek website. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="COLOR: #0d0d0d"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="COLOR: #0d0d0d">These are the Waypoint names
for the Water Boxes between Crazy Cook and Lordsburg:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="COLOR: #0d0d0d"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="COLOR: #0d0d0d">01_137WT<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="COLOR: #0d0d0d">01_255WT<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="COLOR: #0d0d0d">02_194WT<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="COLOR: #0d0d0d">03_127WT<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="COLOR: #0d0d0d">04_198WT<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="COLOR: #0d0d0d"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="COLOR: #0d0d0d">There is a considerable amount
of water in there in addition to the boxes. (Farm ponds and watering
tanks) Any waypoint that ends in “WT” is a place we found water. I
would suggest always carrying more than you anticipate needing in there in
case one of them is dry or non functional. If you plan for 20 miles
between water sources you could do the entire thing just using the cache
boxes. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="COLOR: #0d0d0d"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="COLOR: #0d0d0d">best
wishes,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="COLOR: #0d0d0d"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="COLOR: #0d0d0d">Jerry
Brown<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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