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1. Re: water and distance New Mexico (<a ymailto="mailto:bcss@bresnan.net" href="javascript:return">bcss@bresnan.net</a>)<BR><BR><BR>----------------------------------------------------------------------<BR><BR>Message: 1<BR>Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2013 08:46:16 -0600<BR>From: <<a ymailto="mailto:bcss@bresnan.net" href="javascript:return">bcss@bresnan.net</a>><BR>Subject: Re: [Cdt-l] water and distance New Mexico<BR>To: "'Andy James'" <<a ymailto="mailto:longhiker.pct@gmail.com" href="javascript:return">longhiker.pct@gmail.com</a>>, "'Laurie'"<BR> <<a ymailto="mailto:aure@montrose.net" href="javascript:return">aure@montrose.net</a>>, <<a ymailto="mailto:cdt-l@backcountry.net" href="javascript:return">cdt-l@backcountry.net</a>><BR>Message-ID: <008201ce45b1$7bd38230$737a8690$@net><BR>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"<BR><BR>A trick tank is a rainfall gathering device. Here is a
picture of the one<BR>at 16_061WT:<BR><BR> <BR><BR>www.bearcreeksurvey.com/images/TrickTank.jpg<BR><BR> <BR><BR> <BR><BR>best wishes,<BR><BR> <BR><BR>Jerry Brown<BR><BR>(970) 403-3527 Cell: (970) 749-0496<BR><BR> <mailto:<a ymailto="mailto:bcss@bresnan.net" href="javascript:return">bcss@bresnan.net</a>> mailto:<a ymailto="mailto:bcss@bresnan.net" href="javascript:return">bcss@bresnan.net</a><BR><BR>www.bearcreeksurvey.com<BR><BR> <BR><BR>From: Andy James [mailto:<a ymailto="mailto:longhiker.pct@gmail.com" href="javascript:return">longhiker.pct@gmail.com</a>] <BR>Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2013 8:42 AM<BR>To: <a ymailto="mailto:bcss@bresnan.net" href="javascript:return">bcss@bresnan.net</a>; 'Laurie'; <a ymailto="mailto:cdt-l@backcountry.net" href="javascript:return">cdt-l@backcountry.net</a><BR>Subject: RE: [Cdt-l] water and distance New Mexico<BR><BR> <BR><BR>Trick Tank???<BR><BR> <BR><BR>AJ<BR><BR> <BR><BR> <BR><BR>From: <a
ymailto="mailto:cdt-l-bounces@backcountry.net" href="javascript:return">cdt-l-bounces@backcountry.net</a> [mailto:<a ymailto="mailto:cdt-l-bounces@backcountry.net" href="javascript:return">cdt-l-bounces@backcountry.net</a>]<BR>On Behalf Of <a ymailto="mailto:bcss@bresnan.net" href="javascript:return">bcss@bresnan.net</a><BR>Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2013 8:15 AM<BR>To: 'Laurie'; <a ymailto="mailto:cdt-l@backcountry.net" href="javascript:return">cdt-l@backcountry.net</a><BR>Subject: Re: [Cdt-l] water and distance New Mexico<BR><BR> <BR><BR>I'm not sure of the mileage from Snow Lake, but the Gila and official routes<BR>are reunited at the point where the trail crosses Hwy 12 at the beginning of<BR>Segment 16. From there It is a 40.0 mile road walk on the old route to<BR>Pietown, and Segment 17 continuing onwards from Pie Town to the beginning of<BR>Segment 18 is 29.5 miles. <BR><BR> <BR><BR>>From the same point on Hwy 12, it is 38.1 miles on
the new trail to US Hwy<BR>60 near Omega. The shortest mileage from Omega to the beginning of<BR>Segment 18 is 26.6 miles via dirt roads. (The route shown in the 2013 Map<BR>Book) Pie Town is 13.1 miles east of where the route hits Hwy 60. <BR> Quemado is 7.6 miles west. When you reach this point you will have the<BR>dilemma of either: 1. Hiking to Pietown and continuing north on the old <BR>route. 2. Hiking to Quemado and continuing on by following highways north.<BR>3. Hitching a ride to either town and returning to Omega to hike north. <BR><BR> <BR><BR>I think if I were hiking this year I would hike the new trail then do choice<BR>number one or three. The BLM/USFS plan is to construct new trail that <BR>parallels Hwy 60 from Omega to Pietown, and new trail from Pietown north<BR>towards the Malpais. That will eventually eliminate the road walks while<BR>leaving Pietown on the route.
<BR><BR> <BR><BR>I'm not sure about this year, but when we mapped the new route last year we<BR>found 10 good water sources. Two of those are "trick tanks", so they<BR>may not be very palatable in a dry year. Most of the others are windmills<BR>and cattle watering tanks which are usually fairly reliable. The old road<BR>walk<BR>to Pie Town has 5 water sources, and three of those are within three miles<BR>of each other. They are also cattle watering setups. <BR><BR> <BR><BR>The new trail is a much nicer route than the old road walk. <BR><BR> <BR><BR>best wishes,<BR><BR> <BR><BR>Jerry Brown<BR><BR>mailto:<a ymailto="mailto:bcss@bresnan.net" href="javascript:return">bcss@bresnan.net</a><BR><BR>www.bearcreeksurvey.com<BR><BR> <BR><BR>From: <a ymailto="mailto:cdt-l-bounces@backcountry.net" href="javascript:return">cdt-l-bounces@backcountry.net</a> [mailto:<a ymailto="mailto:cdt-l-bounces@backcountry.net"
href="javascript:return">cdt-l-bounces@backcountry.net</a>]<BR>On Behalf Of Laurie<BR>Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 7:17 PM<BR>To: <a ymailto="mailto:cdt-l@backcountry.net" href="javascript:return">cdt-l@backcountry.net</a><BR>Subject: [Cdt-l] water and distace New Mexico<BR><BR> <BR><BR>HI all,<BR><BR>I am wondering if anyone knows the difference in mileage between Snow Lake<BR>and PIe Town on Leys route versus the new CDT route.<BR><BR>Also have heard rumor the new CDT route is pretty dry this year and some<BR>have had trouble finding water at the places water is supposed to be. <BR><BR>any info helpful<BR><BR>thanks<BR><BR>Laurie <BR><BR>-------------- next part --------------<BR>An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<BR>URL: <a href="http://mailman.backcountry.net/pipermail/cdt-l/attachments/20130430/ff6ceb6b/attachment-0001.html" target=_blank >http://mailman.backcountry.net/pipermail/cdt-l/attachments/20130430/ff6ceb6b/attachment-0001.html</a>
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