<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:12pt"><div><span>The need for spikes and ax will depend on the conditions of the year and your timing of course. In 2010, I entered the San Juans NOBO on June 4. I was glad to have spikes and ax and used them several times. </span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span><br></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>In 2011, I entered the Wind River Range NOBO on July 13. I used the ax and spikes a few times. There was some real scary stuff.</span></div><div
style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span><br></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>The boots question is probably a personal preference thing and there is no perfect solution. For 25 years I hiked in heavy all leather custom boot by Peter Limmer & Sons in the rugged terrain of NH, 5.25 pounds a pair. They allowed me to step carelessly on the sharped rock and they would stick to almost anything. They would keep my feet dry for a long time but with extended exposure all boots give up. They took forever to dry, sometimes days. </span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: HelveticaNeue,
'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span><br></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>On thru-hikes I have used light weight breathable Merrell Moab Ventilators, 2.5 pounds a pair. Yes, my feet feel the first drop that hits them and every bump in the trail. They do dry quickly, though. Other boots are lighter and dry even faster but I need at least this much structure in a boot and they fit me right. I have to be more careful about where I step and retire them after ~1000 miles. I have to use spikes much sooner than with the ridged soles of the Limmers and kicking steps it tougher. They don't get too wet on packed snow. It's the wet, slushy & melting snow that gets the feet cold & wet. I doubt
anything will work wading through a field of 6" to 10" deep standing snow melt. For me, gaiters are a must all the time but especially in snow.</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span><br></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>As you can see, there are no real answers here but hopefully some of the pros & cons have been illuminated. The particular snow conditions when you hit it will be key.</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style:
normal;"><span><br></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>Happy Hiking!</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>Voyageur</span></div><div class="yahoo_quoted" style="display: block;"> <br> <br> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font size="2" face="Arial"> On Thursday, January 2, 2014 12:32 AM, Jim and_or Ginny Owen <spiriteagle99@hotmail.com> wrote:<br> </font> </div> <blockquote
style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; margin-top: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"> <div class="y_msg_container"><div id="yiv3306452653"><style>#yiv3306452653 #yiv3306452653 --
.yiv3306452653hmmessage P
{
margin:0px;padding:0px;}
#yiv3306452653 body.yiv3306452653hmmessage
{
font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri;}
#yiv3306452653 </style><div><div dir="ltr">We intended to bring an ice axe on our NOBO hike, but snow levels were very low so we didn't. We detoured around the Knife Edge, because we knew we'd need one there, but otherwise we never felt the lack. We were wearing leather boots so we could kick steps in the snow, and that was enough. On a normal year, or if you are earlier than we were, an ice axe may be a necessity if you don't want to road walk around the high country. We did use an ice axe on our SOBO hike, and were glad we had it. <br clear="none"> <br clear="none">In terms of clothes, you don't really need hardcore winter gear unless you are out past mid-September. You will want to have a warm jacket because it can drop below freezing in July and August in the Rockies, and will likely snow in June and September. Same with warm hat and gloves. I have gotten hypothermic in the high
country in July, after an all day rain, so I've learned to be prepared. At the same time, we had several days in the 90's in northern Colorado. One of the SOBO hikers said, "We were warned about how cold it could be, nobody told us it would be this hot." I used a 20 degree bag from NM to central MT, then switched to a 5 deg. bag. (We finished that hike in mid-October.) <br clear="none"><br clear="none">Ginny<br clear="none"><div><div class="yiv3306452653yqt0243653936" id="yiv3306452653yqtfd40957"><hr id="yiv3306452653stopSpelling">From: keaton@irco.com<br clear="none">To: Cdt-l@backcountry.net<br clear="none">Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2014 12:21:22 +0000<br clear="none">Subject: [Cdt-l] Winter Gear?<br clear="none"><br clear="none">
<style>#yiv3306452653 #yiv3306452653 --
.yiv3306452653ExternalClass p.yiv3306452653ecxMsoNormal, #yiv3306452653 .yiv3306452653ExternalClass li.yiv3306452653ecxMsoNormal, #yiv3306452653 .yiv3306452653ExternalClass div.yiv3306452653ecxMsoNormal {
font-size:12.0pt;}
#yiv3306452653 .yiv3306452653ExternalClass a:link, #yiv3306452653 .yiv3306452653ExternalClass span.yiv3306452653ecxMsoHyperlink {
color:blue;text-decoration:underline;}
#yiv3306452653 .yiv3306452653ExternalClass span.yiv3306452653ecxMsoHyperlinkFollowed {
color:purple;text-decoration:underline;}
#yiv3306452653 .yiv3306452653ExternalClass p.yiv3306452653ecxMsoAcetate, #yiv3306452653 .yiv3306452653ExternalClass li.yiv3306452653ecxMsoAcetate, #yiv3306452653 .yiv3306452653ExternalClass div.yiv3306452653ecxMsoAcetate {
font-size:8.0pt;}
#yiv3306452653 .yiv3306452653ExternalClass span.yiv3306452653ecxBalloonTextChar {
}
#yiv3306452653 .yiv3306452653ExternalClass p.yiv3306452653ecxyiv5987282028msonormal, #yiv3306452653 .yiv3306452653ExternalClass li.yiv3306452653ecxyiv5987282028msonormal, #yiv3306452653 .yiv3306452653ExternalClass div.yiv3306452653ecxyiv5987282028msonormal {
font-size:12.0pt;}
#yiv3306452653 .yiv3306452653ExternalClass p.yiv3306452653ecxyiv5987282028msonormal1, #yiv3306452653 .yiv3306452653ExternalClass li.yiv3306452653ecxyiv5987282028msonormal1, #yiv3306452653 .yiv3306452653ExternalClass div.yiv3306452653ecxyiv5987282028msonormal1 {
font-size:12.0pt;}
#yiv3306452653 .yiv3306452653ExternalClass span.yiv3306452653ecxyiv5987282028msohyperlink {
}
#yiv3306452653 .yiv3306452653ExternalClass span.yiv3306452653ecxyiv5987282028msohyperlinkfollowed {
}
#yiv3306452653 .yiv3306452653ExternalClass span.yiv3306452653ecxyiv5987282028emailstyle17 {
}
#yiv3306452653 .yiv3306452653ExternalClass span.yiv3306452653ecxyiv5987282028msohyperlink1 {
color:blue;text-decoration:underline;}
#yiv3306452653 .yiv3306452653ExternalClass span.yiv3306452653ecxyiv5987282028msohyperlinkfollowed1 {
color:purple;text-decoration:underline;}
#yiv3306452653 .yiv3306452653ExternalClass span.yiv3306452653ecxyiv5987282028emailstyle171 {
color:#1F497D;}
#yiv3306452653 .yiv3306452653ExternalClass span.yiv3306452653ecxEmailStyle27 {
color:#0D0D0D;}
#yiv3306452653 .yiv3306452653ExternalClass span.yiv3306452653ecxEmailStyle28 {
color:#1F497D;}
#yiv3306452653 .yiv3306452653ExternalClass .yiv3306452653ecxMsoChpDefault {
font-size:10.0pt;}
#yiv3306452653 .yiv3306452653ExternalClass div.yiv3306452653ecxWordSection1 {
}
#yiv3306452653 </style>
<div class="yiv3306452653ecxWordSection1">
<div class="yiv3306452653ecxMsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31, 73, 125);">When hiking the CDT Northbound what type of Winter Gear are you thinking about taking ?</span></div>
</div>
<br clear="none">
</div></div><div class="yiv3306452653yqt0243653936" id="yiv3306452653yqtfd34528"> </div></div></div></div><br><div class="yqt0243653936" id="yqtfd77825">_______________________________________________<br clear="none">Cdt-l mailing list<br clear="none"><a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:Cdt-l@backcountry.net" href="mailto:Cdt-l@backcountry.net">Cdt-l@backcountry.net</a><br clear="none"><a shape="rect" href="http://mailman.backcountry.net/mailman/listinfo/cdt-l" target="_blank">http://mailman.backcountry.net/mailman/listinfo/cdt-l</a><br clear="none"></div><br><br></div> </blockquote> </div> </div> </div> </div></body></html>