[pct-l] Trail Ales

Fri Dec 22 13:40:55 CST 2006

Merry Christmas Mike (Oil Can)  What was that brew that they sold at the 
Storm games, about a pig or something?  How have you been? Merry Christmas 
and Happy (Hiking ) New Year to All   PCT r's
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike Saenz" <msaenz at mve-architects.com>
To: "Deems" <losthiker at sisqtel.net>; <jeff.singewald at comcast.net>; 
<pct-l at backcountry.net>
Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 10:26 AM
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Trail Ales


> VERY nice!!!
>
> How does the larger stove perform? I've heard from others that the large
> burner is less efficient than the smaller Pepsi or tuna can versions. I
> also did a (very) unscientific test on how well an oilcan would hold up
> to heat. I didn't.
> (I had to fish out the melted/burnt can out of a campfire pit)
> But it looks like you've managed to make it work!
>
> So does it burn more fuel per 2 cups of water than the traditional can
> stoves?
> How long till 2 cups come to a boil at, say, 10k?
>
> Michael  Saenz
> Associate Partner
>
> MVE & Partners, Inc. | Architecture + Planning + Interiors
> Irvine + Oakland + Honolulu
>
> 1900 Main Street, Suite 800 | Irvine, California 92614-7318 | T
> 949.809.3388 | www.mve-architects.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Deems [mailto:losthiker at sisqtel.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 5:09 PM
> To: Mike Saenz; jeff.singewald at comcast.net; pct-l at backcountry.net
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Trail Ales
>
> Mike,
> After I drink a couple of the green label Oil cans, known to us as
> Foster
> Bitter around this canyon; I cut them up and make a stove out of the
> carcasses...You decide which is the better outcome.. It's the only beer
> I
> can tolerate coming out of aluminum...I prefer bottled beer, made with
> fresh
> snowmelt, and brewed by talented mountain dwelling elves... The Solstice
> is
> only a few hours away!
> http://www.pbase.com/losthiker/image/56167949
> http://www.pbase.com/losthiker/image/59312294
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: Mike Saenz
> To: jeff.singewald at comcast.net ; Deems ; pct-l at backcountry.net
> Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 3:19 PM
> Subject: RE: [pct-l] Trail Ales
>
>
> I agree. A regular Sierra Nevada is tastier than a REGULAR oilcan.
>
> However- try the rare, and much better "green label" oilcan!
>
> http://www.angelfire.com/ult/oilcan/
>
> good stuff!
>
> I always pack one for the 1st night on the trail.
>
> Last May, at Saddle Junction above Idyllwild, "Smiley" and a few of his
> pack
> met up with me and after a few words he exclaimed" ..so YOU'RE Oilcan!
> You
> gotta show me that oilcan!" (see attached - sorry PCT-L, attachments
> don't
> go through). He snapped this pic and sent it to me after he completed
> his
> thru-hike.
>
>
>
> Michael Saenz
> Associate Partner
>
> MVE & Partners, Inc. | Architecture + Planning + Interiors
> Irvine + Oakland + Honolulu
>
> 1900 Main Street, Suite 800 | Irvine, California 92614-7318 | T
> 949.809.3388
> | www.mve-architects.com
>
>
>
>
>
> From: jeff.singewald at comcast.net [mailto:jeff.singewald at comcast.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 3:05 PM
> To: Mike Saenz; Deems; pct-l at backcountry.net
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Trail Ales
>
> Oilcan,
>
> Speaking of oilcans..... As I left Tehachappi and Highway 58 to begin
> the
> long climb up towards Golden Oak Springs this past summer I found
> Giddy-up,
> Paulie and Abondoner also heading out of town.  We climbed out of the
> canyon
> together and decided we would meet up again at the spring.  As I reached
> the
> spring I found myself craving a cold one as the "spring" was by no means
>
> golden at all.  It was a cement cow trough at best with the incoming
> water
> dripping at about 1 liter every 2 minutes.  Some time later Abandoner
> comes
> into camp and drops his pack and pulls out three OilCans (yep, the big
> uns!)
> and throws them into the through to cool down a bit.  He hauled those
> oilcans out of Tehachappi as a surprise for Giddy-up and Paulie.  Now
> that
> is what I call magic!  What I would have done for one of them!  But, off
> the
> trail, pour me a Sierra Nevada anytime over the oilcan.  In fact, I was
> just
> up in Chico for the Thanksgiving hol iday a nd went out to the brewery
> and
> bought a case of the Celebration Ale and a case of the Brown Ale right
> off
> the packaging line.  Nothing better!
>
> Elevator
>
> -------------- Original message -------------- 
> From: "Mike Saenz" <msaenz at mve-architects.com>
>
>> I just tried the Sierra Nevada "Celebration" last Sunday.
>> I didn't care for it.
>>
>> Oilcans, people. Oilcans....
>>
>> Michael Saenz
>> Associate Partner
>>
>> MVE & Partners, Inc. | Architecture + Planning + Interiors
>> Irvine + Oakland + Honolulu
>>
>> 1900 Main Street, Suite 800 | Irvine, California 92614-7318 | T
>> 949.809.3388 | www.mve-architects.com
>>
>> -----Original Message----- 
>> From: pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net
>> [mailto:pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net] On Behalf Of Deems
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 2:35 PM
>> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
>> Subject: [pct-l] Trail Ales
>>
>> Mad Monte and I shared a pitcher of "Walking Man" Ale and pizza
>> together in
>> the Salmon Row Pub in Cascade Locks last June. Then we hiked up into
> the
>>
>> Eagle Creek Gorge for a great camping and photo trip. My all time
>> favorite
>> is the Sierra Nevada Celebration Ale, which is only available once a
>> year
>> around the winter solstice. I will soon crack one (or more) open, and
>> celebrate the solstice!
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> Thought I'd reply to a less 'controversial' subject here. Not much of
> a
>> beer
>> drinker on or off the trail, but has anyone had any of the fine beers
>> from
>> the Six Rivers brewery in Mckinnleyville CA? ('Loaders light' a good
>> one)
>> Pretty good stuff, and plus Bigfoot is their mascot. I agree with the
>> comments
>> about New Mexico. I remember seeing a LOT of empties alongside the
>> roads,
>> this
>> could be a possible hiker income supplement! Scott
> &g t;
>>
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