[pct-l] Glacier Peak Detour math grade

[Jeff Moorehead]

Here, here! This was truly a challenge. I hit the start of the Little Giant 
Trail at sunset in a rainy fog, thinking I would be able to camp somewhere 
soon along the route. Bad decision. As Elevator stated, this was perhaps the 
most non-'PCT-like' portion of the journey (although offcially it isn't the 
PCT). The trail grade approaches 20%-- the grade of the trail is about a C- 
(barely passing) in terms of condition. I'd do it again though.
Whiptail.

> The average gradiant limits established by the PCT architects are not in 
> effect along the Official Detour in Washington.  The climb up Little Giant 
> exceeds the average limits by a significant margin.  It was a goat track 
> in late August when I went through, but the views were simply spectacular. 
> The detour has received a lot of bad press, but make no mistake the climbs 
> up Boulder and Little Giant are well worth the trip!  No doubt, I will 
> return to Northern Washington to do the old official PCT route in the 
> future, but I was glad to have the chance to do the detour.
>
> Jeff
>
> -------------- Original message -------------- 
> From: "Steve Courtway" <scourtway at bpa-arch.com>
>
>> > The mouth of Mission Creek is about 3060 at mile 225. so that's about 
>> > 4905
>> > feet of gain in about 14 miles. That would be what? A 6% grade average 
>> > up
>> > Mission Creek?
>> > (grade percentage is rise divided by distance?)
>>
>>
>> You are correct sir, the PCT-L has provided an opportunity to freshen up
>> your site planning skills, as 6% is also the maximum allowable ramp slope
>> for automobiles.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Mike Saenz"
>> To: "Bill & Cathy Frenette"
>> Cc:
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 10:47 AM
>> Subject: Re: [pct-l] (no subject)
>>
>>
>> > Elevation at PCT/I-10 is 1580 at mile 210.
>> > Mission Creek Trail Camp is 7965 at mile 239.
>> > That's 6385 feet gain in 29 miles, or 220 feet of gain per mile 
>> > (average).
>> >
>> > As for "grade percentage", the trail stays fairly low for the first 15
>> > miles before the real climb up the east flank of San G along Mission
>> > Creek.
>> >
>> > The mouth of Mission Creek is about 3060 at mile 225. so that's about 
>> > 4905
>> > feet of gain in about 14 miles. That would be what? A 6% grade average 
>> > up
>> > Mission Creek?
>> > (grade percentage is rise divided by distance?)
>> >
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>> > ________________________________________
>> > From: Bill & Cathy Frenette [mailto:tahoe.cat at verizon.net]
>> > Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 10:26 AM
>> > To: Mike Saenz
>> > Cc: pct-l at mailman.backcountry.net
>> > Subject:
>> >
>> > Hi Mike I was wondering if you, or anyone on the list knew what the 
>> > grade
>> > in percentage was from the I-10 to Mission creek trail camp? Thanks for
>> > any info. "Be Prepared" Ground Pounder Bill "Semper Fi"
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