[pct-l] One sheet of TP - disgusting

[Junaid Dawud]

Oh I almost forgot,

I was only once struck ill.  No diagnosis was ever
made so I'm not sure whether it was or wasn't  crypto
or giardia.  My sypmtoms were consistent with mild
Giardia.  I believe it was due to untreated tap water
from Kennedy Meadows Campground.  Scout, who I was
hiking with at the time, also had similar symptoms. 
If it was Giardia, the timing from KM to where we got
sick was about right.  My method is quite sanitary.
And truth be told, I probably had cleaner hands as a
result of my technique than most. What with the water
and 2x hand sanitizer as oppossed to the no water and
1x hand sanitizer that I'm sure many hikers used.

--------Speshul 41



--- jeff.singewald at comcast.net wrote:

> OK Junaid it looks like you should share more in
> depth.  These folks apparently do not understand
> that many countries outside of the US are not
> privledged to be able to wipe their backsides with
> Charmin or baby wipes.  So, please do share that
> story you shared on the PCT 2006 Yahoo Group List
> last year prior to your hike about your plans for
> hygenic care of your backside.  And, don't hestitate
> to share how many times you were or were not
> sidetracked by the dreaded G word during your hike.
> 
> I still feel fortunate that I was ahead of you at
> every water source but that's another story :)
> 
> -------------- Original message -------------- 
> From: Point North <pointnorther_light at yahoo.com> 
> 
> > There actually have been ideas like this
> circulating around, by "ultralite" 
> > fanatics who resent carrying TP. On another board
> not long ago, someone posted 
> > the idea of using a "pee rag" instead of toilet
> paper. While this woman did not 
> > say so directly, she strongly implied (by saying
> she doesn't carry any toilet 
> > paper) that she used this rag for both purposes.
> She thought she could wash it 
> > out after each use -- apparently, for both types
> of use. 
> > 
> > There was a study done a few years ago, in
> California, that found that most 
> > cases of giardia and other intestinal diseases in
> the backcountry are caused by 
> > improper hygene, not contaminated water. In fact,
> most of the water samples 
> > taken were clean. The report concluded that
> trouble usually arises when hikers 
> > ingest food with dirty hands (and fingers!). 
> > 
> > Note to self: Never share a bag of gorp with
> someone who is carrying 
> > suspiciously little TP. 
> > 
> > AsABat wrote: 
> > 
> > > That is disgusting. Not to mention unhygenic.
> You will not be able 
> > to 
> > > "wipe off" the millions of bacteria that you
> have just deposited onto 
> > your 
> > > finger. Carry enough TP to wipe properly, and
> save your fingers for 
> > > eating. 
> > 
> > That's what those in my backpacking classes said
> to me before they 
> > realized it was a joke! 
> > 
> > I agree. I've heard that more giardia is spread by
> not properly washing 
> > hands and then sharing bags of gorp. 
> > 
> > AsABat 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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