[pct-l] pct-l Digest, Vol 45, Issue 17
Sue Kujawa
sue at mothersclub.org
Mon Jul 16 15:32:36 CDT 2007
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Today's Topics:
1. where are the leaders (JoAnn M. Michael)
2. Re: New Pillow (AsABat)
3. Hiker Chat Room (Postholer)
4. Marble Mountains trip- Sec. Q (Judson)
5. New Hiking Poles (Hiker97 at aol.com)
6. Belden / Middle Fork Feather River -hiker update. (LumberJack)
7. Pedometer (Hiker97 at aol.com)
8. again J-section (T-hiker) (Teresa Wagner)
9. Thru-hikers at Ebbetts Pass (Hank Magnuski)
10. Re: disturbing news from Judson (JoAnn M. Michael)
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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 14:22:57 -0700
From: "JoAnn M. Michael" <jomike at cot.net>
Subject: [pct-l] where are the leaders
To: <pct-l at mailman.backcountry.net>
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Thank you all for the information about the general location of the
thru-bees.
are we there yet
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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 15:56:13 -0700
From: "AsABat" <AsABat at 4Jeffrey.Net>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] New Pillow
To: <pct-l at backcountry.net>
Message-ID: <003301c7c733$57a83750$6501010a at PC8>
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I hope they don't ban hikers from airlines in the future because they
steal pillows <grin>.
I like this inflatable pillow
http://www.store.grahammedical.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Sto
re_Code=GMC&Product_Code=53962&Category_Code=SP .
They can be bought at
http://www.backpackinglight.com/cgi-bin/backpackinglight/flexair_dual_ul
tralight_pillow.html .
Check out the reviews at
http://www.backpackgeartest.org/reviews/Sleep%20Gear/Accessories/FlexAir
%20Travel%20Pillow/ .
AsABat
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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 18:33:55 -0700
From: "Postholer" <public at postholer.com>
Subject: [pct-l] Hiker Chat Room
To: <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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We've added a chat room to the postholer.com site.
Yes, you now have yet another distraction from your job. If you haven't
registered yet, do so first, and you'll be ready for a good day of chatting
with that morning coffee.
As usual, hikers helping hikers, NO BANNERS, no price tags and we'll never
ask for donations. We still have links to the guidebooks for you to
purchase, but all proceeds will go to the PCTA.
Your welcome.
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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 21:08:09 -0700
From: "Judson" <judsonwb at jeffnet.org>
Subject: [pct-l] Marble Mountains trip- Sec. Q
To: "PCT-L" <pct-l at backcountry.net>
Message-ID: <000601c7c75e$ebd226e0$0647f142 at Judson>
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Back from my hike of section Q, the Marble Mountains Wilderness. I completed
the 55 miles in 45 hours...ouch.
To begin with, the trail is overall in great shape. I counted 53 blowdowns,
none of which was particularly troublesome, but several that would be very
tough for stock. They were most common on the descent to Grider Cr. CG, a
section that was also (of course) quite brushy. After the 3rd footbridge,
however, the trail had gotten some love and is in superb shape.
Water: none until Bear Cub Spring at 7.6, which is about 5 min. off route,
well-signed, and has plenty of water. The first on-trail water is the
crossing of Shelley Lake's outlet creek at 10.7 mi.
From here, it was dry until the "creeklet with campsites" 0.4 mi. before
Fisher Lake (14.1 mi.). The entire traverse from here to the junction with
the old PCT has tons of water.
I didn't visit Cold Springs, which is off-route. Also, the maps show and
discusses 2 junctions to this spring; I only saw the 2nd one, which was
signed.
Soft Water Spring had water, but it was only seeping, as indicated by
the guide book. Also, the guide book shows the other end of the Shadow Lake
Trail ending here; it does not. It meets the PCT 1/4 later at a crest
saddle.
Marble Valley and and the climb up to Big Rock Camp have plenty of
water.
The spring mentioned near the junction of the Rye Spur trail was a bit
hard to get to due to heavy brush, but had water. After a couple of streams
on the climb following Paradise Lake, there was nothing until Buckhorn
Spring, which consisted of a small mud-bottomed pool with a very attractive
campsite nearby.
Fire situation: I'm not sure what website would be good to check, but there
are numerous fires on all sides of Seiad Valley. For me, it was smoky from
Big Rock Camp on, with nearby fires visible as soon as I hit Big Ridge. I
did not get to enjoy the aforementioned campsite at Buckhorn Spring because
the ridgetop on the opposite side of the valley to the SW had burst into
100' tall flames at around 9pm on Saturday, with the wind blowing straight
at me. The thought of that moving toward me in the night as I slept made me
a little queasy, so I packed up my camp and hiked until 10:30 to put some
distance between myself and those flames. The smoke was quite thick, and
continued to be so through Sunday. The smoke has even reached Ashland, so
it's safe to say that section R is affected by this as well. Today, Hwy. 96
was closed to traffic in varying locations, so if you're planning on someone
picking you up or dropping you off at Seiad Valley, check ahead.
Judson
Ashland
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 04:11:08 EDT
From: Hiker97 at aol.com
Subject: [pct-l] New Hiking Poles
To: pct-l at mailman.backcountry.net
Cc: john.hannah at shawgrp.com, lizmares at cox.net, carolwbruno at yahoo.com
Message-ID: <c2d.152685b0.33cc821c at aol.com>
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I decided to get the REI carbon poles (#750835). I had some gift
certificates, so I used them on these poles. They cost $149 and weigh in
at around 7
ounces each. Not bad for hiking poles. I was using the GossamerGear.com
carbon balancing poles. They weigh in at under 3 ounces each and are
great.
But I needed to go back to regular hiking type poles due to my knees/legs
not being what they used to. I needed a good strap system to take some
weight
off my knees/legs as I walk. Of course, I will modify the new poles when I
get them. I will add some reflective tape to the top area and a little
Duct
tape to the bottom third of the pole, where they take a beating.
Remember, that a lot of hikers use their poles/hand strap incorrectly on
the
trail. The proper way to use a pole is to put your hand on the pole shaft
and slide it up to the hand grip through the strap. The strap is key to
using
the hiking pole. The strap should be snug across the hand below the little
finger. But you probably know all this already.
I will see you on the Mt. Whitney trail in August and the ALDHA-West
Gathering in September. I plan to do much trailtown sacking and debauchery
up and
down CA hwy. 395. Also, trail campsite pillaging and plundering will be in
order. I will be so ashamed. But may be I will not be able to do that,
since
some Female Leadership Terminators may be around on these expeditions to
keep
an eye on me.
I thank you for your attention.
Switchback the Trail Pirate
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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 01:13:37 -0700 (PDT)
From: LumberJack <themtgoat at yahoo.com>
Subject: [pct-l] Belden / Middle Fork Feather River -hiker update.
To: pctl <pct-l at mailman.backcountry.net>
Message-ID: <828665.41190.qm at web90404.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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I just was hiking in the M. Fork of the feather River area on Saturday,
7/14.
On the way there I saw lieutenant Dan Near Belden, he said he broke is toe,
and he is hitching to Eureka to take a week off to let his toe heal.
I found Robo Cop at the Middle Fork Feather river and delivered the pocket
new testament that he requested. Yes, it was only about 1 oz...for you ultra
lighters. :-)
I did see her, but RMBL (Caithlia)?, Jackie (Granite Falls) and Thunder
(hudson, OH) were about 10 miles before the Middle Fork Feather River as I
hiked back to La Porta Rd.
I hope to do another hike this Saturday, near Old Station to see if I can
catch up to my hiking budy Robo Cop again. (We started out together in
2005). It looks like he is doing pretty good, and I am hoping he will make
it to see Canada this year.
-Lumberjack-
PCT 05
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Check out fun summer activities for kids.
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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 04:41:23 EDT
From: Hiker97 at aol.com
Subject: [pct-l] Pedometer
To: pct-l at mailman.backcountry.net
Cc: john.hannah at shawgrp.com, lizmares at cox.net, carolwbruno at yahoo.com
Message-ID: <c6f.13ab239c.33cc8933 at aol.com>
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I use a pedometer all the time to keep track of my daily steps. I try for
7,000 steps per day. Go to _www.new-lifestyles.com_
(http://www.new-lifestyles.com/) to see a neat system. I use their SW-701
Digi-Walker.
If you have this calibrated correctly, this could be very valuable on the
trail to track mileage. I plan to use it on the Mt. Whitney expedition in
August.
I thank you for your attention.
Switchback the Ped
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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 06:03:57 -0700
From: Teresa Wagner <tmwagner at comcast.net>
Subject: [pct-l] again J-section (T-hiker)
To: pct-l at backcountry.net
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OK newbie here... well sort-of....
I've been "peaking" around this list for sometime. You folks are a hoot!
My partner (i want to put "we" but i am job bound. :-(...) is
planning a Steven's Pass to Snoqualmie Pass trip (7 days). I am
helping with the logistics/food/travel etc... He is going in a couple
of weeks (early August).
some questions...
Has anyone done this route recently? We got some great pointers
earlier this year regarding this route and the direction he is going.
How are the bugs?
I am finding conflicting results regarding the distance for this route.
Any must camp/see spots? Got a few in my head but would love some
advice or ideas.
Again your list RULES!
T-hiker
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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 07:56:15 -0700 (PDT)
From: Hank Magnuski <hankm at ncast.com>
Subject: [pct-l] Thru-hikers at Ebbetts Pass
To: pct-l at backcountry.net
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0707160745070.1276-100000 at sv-04.mtinet.com>
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I was on a trail crew the last few days and met the following thru's a few
miles
north of Ebbetts Pass:
7/13: Sol-de-sol, Sundog, Giggles, Fester. Also Tea Tree and Spirit
southbound.
7/14: Iceman, Gazelle, Guts, Chuckwagon, Freebird, Corrupter
7/15: Hydro, Penguin
Probably very few hikers south of Ebbetts Pass at this time.
Hank
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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 10:01:53 -0700
From: "JoAnn M. Michael" <jomike at cot.net>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] disturbing news from Judson
To: "David Hough hiking PCNST in bits" <pcnst2001 at oakapple.net>
Cc: pct-l at mailman.backcountry.net
Message-ID: <001201c7c7cb$0253bfc0$6501a8c0 at emory84ba0f85f>
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Per local news, it's not very good. Here in Lake Shastina (a hundred miles
via roads; maybe 75 +/- as the crow flies) we are socked in most the day
with smoke from all the fires in Klamath NF. Town of Happy Camp (largest of
the "down river" communities) still not out of danger. Also, traffic is
being stopped at the junction of Hwys. 253 (parallels I-5; north/south) and
96 (east/west) down to Seiad. You cannot go down Hwy. 96 unless you are an
emergency vehicle or a local resident. Could be an issue if thru-bees are
expecting to meet someone driving into Seiad. Though there is a route from
the north if you got lucky and past the road closures.
If you want really clean air; best to stay home a while. The thru-bees will
be definitely experiencing smoke regards as to wind, etc.
are we there yet
----- Original Message -----
From: David Hough hiking PCNST in bits
To: Tortoise73 at charter.net ; jomike at cot.net ; losthiker at sisqtel.net
Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 7:10 AM
Subject: disturbing news from Judson
Dear Jeffersonians,
I wonder if you have anything to add Judson's report.
I am getting over a cold/cough and don't really need smoke irritation.
My plan is to dayhike the northern end of P on Tues/Weds, from Etna,
and do either Q or R on Thurs/Fri/Sat.
Real fires, thick smoke, and road closures would all be a problem.
What do you think?
David Hough
> From: "Judson" <judsonwb at jeffnet.org>
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> Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 21:08:09 -0700
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> Subject: [pct-l] Marble Mountains trip- Sec. Q
>
> Back from my hike of section Q, the Marble Mountains Wilderness. I
completed the 55 miles in 45 hours...ouch.
>
> To begin with, the trail is overall in great shape. I counted 53
blowdowns, none of which was particularly troublesome, but several that
would be very tough for stock. They were most common on the descent to
Grider Cr. CG, a section that was also (of course) quite brushy. After the
3rd footbridge, however, the trail had gotten some love and is in superb
shape.
>
> Water: none until Bear Cub Spring at 7.6, which is about 5 min. off
route, well-signed, and has plenty of water. The first on-trail water is the
crossing of Shelley Lake's outlet creek at 10.7 mi.
> From here, it was dry until the "creeklet with campsites" 0.4 mi.
before Fisher Lake (14.1 mi.). The entire traverse from here to the junction
with the old PCT has tons of water.
> I didn't visit Cold Springs, which is off-route. Also, the maps show
and discusses 2 junctions to this spring; I only saw the 2nd one, which was
signed.
> Soft Water Spring had water, but it was only seeping, as indicated
by the guide book. Also, the guide book shows the other end of the Shadow
Lake Trail ending here; it does not. It meets the PCT 1/4 later at a crest
saddle.
> Marble Valley and and the climb up to Big Rock Camp have plenty of
water.
> The spring mentioned near the junction of the Rye Spur trail was a
bit hard to get to due to heavy brush, but had water. After a couple of
streams on the climb following Paradise Lake, there was nothing until
Buckhorn Spring, which consisted of a small mud-bottomed pool with a very
attractive campsite nearby.
>
> Fire situation: I'm not sure what website would be good to check, but
there are numerous fires on all sides of Seiad Valley. For me, it was smoky
from Big Rock Camp on, with nearby fires visible as soon as I hit Big Ridge.
I did not get to enjoy the aforementioned campsite at Buckhorn Spring
because the ridgetop on the opposite side of the valley to the SW had burst
into 100' tall flames at around 9pm on Saturday, with the wind blowing
straight at me. The thought of that moving toward me in the night as I slept
made me a little queasy, so I packed up my camp and hiked until 10:30 to put
some distance between myself and those flames. The smoke was quite thick,
and continued to be so through Sunday. The smoke has even reached Ashland,
so it's safe to say that section R is affected by this as well. Today, Hwy.
96 was closed to traffic in varying locations, so if you're planning on
someone picking you up or dropping you off at Seiad Valley, check ahead.
>
> Judson
> Ashland
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