[pct-l] Pct-l Digest, Vol 4, Issue 126

Justin A DiPaola-Allen justind at hawaii.edu
Mon Apr 28 14:09:43 CDT 2008


To everyone,

I know this might have been covered already...but I was wondering what the snow conditions in California have been this season, has it been unusually snowy or is this a drought year? Also what is a good day to leave KM this year, Ray Day or sooner or later?

Thanks, 
Justin D.

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Date: Monday, April 28, 2008 7:03 am
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>    1. Re: North to South (Halfmile)
>    2. Re: 2008 Kickoff After Action Report (AsABat)
>    3. Re: 2008 Kickoff After Action Report (hiker97 at aol.com)
>    4. AZDPCTKO (Amanda L Silvestri)
>    5. Border register........ (Andrea Dinsmore)
>    6. Re: Contaminated water question
>       (Diane Soini of Santa Barbara Hikes)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 22:16:50 -0700
> From: Halfmile <halfmile at pctmap.net>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] North to South
> To: "David Dralle" <daviddralle at gmail.com>
> Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
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> David,
> 
> I have never hiked this late in the season but the weather can 
> sometimes be bad.
> 
> It was unusual, but on October 17, 2004 a snowstorm hit the Sierra's
> killing a couple of climbers in Yosemite, and stranding many hikers.
> So be prepared. I would try and be south of the Sierra by October
> 15th.
> 
> http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-
> bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2004/10/21/FOUND21.TMP
> http://www.usatoday.com/weather/news/2004-10-20-sierra-snow_x.htm
> 
> -Halfmile
> 
> 
> 
> On Sat, Apr 26, 2008 at 1:11 PM, David Dralle 
> <daviddralle at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hello everyone. My name is David. I'm just getting started 
> with planning a
> >  hike from Crater Lake, OR to Campo, CA via the PCT 
> starting in August 2008.
> >  This is all very preliminary, but a friend who has hiked 
> the AT twice
> >  suggested I get on a forum. A few questions I already 
> have: What's up with
> >  the weather in central/southern CA in September/Oct/Nov? 
> No one will be
> >  hiking with me southbound probably, I think I can handle 
> the alone time, but
> >  not sure at this point, any comments?
> >
> >  Anyways. Thanks for all who have listened. I'll be 
> listening back.
> >
> >  Hugs, David
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> ------------------------------
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> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 06:21:09 -0700
> From: "AsABat" <AsABat at 4Jeffrey.Net>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] 2008 Kickoff After Action Report
> To: <Hiker97 at aol.com>,	<pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Cc: lizmares at cox.net, YFuquay at catholiccharities.com,
> 	carolwbruno at yahoo.com,	John.Hannah at wgint.com, 
> reinholdmetzger at cox.net,	zoomersdelivers at yahoo.com, 
> laura629 at hotmail.comMessage-ID: 
> <004601c8a932$b8b90010$6501010a at PC8>Content-Type: 
> text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"
> 
> Lies and slander, I say! Here's the truth as I see it:
> 
> > 9.  Someone TP'd my Pirate Lair  table area while I 
> was out goofing
> off.
> > I
> > strongly suspect who this  was.  I know it had to be 
> that infamous
> trail-
> > water
> > mad  scientist, AsABat.  But I cannot actually catch 
> him doing it each
> > year.
> 
> The truth is the Trail Pirate was trying to SELL TOILET PAPER. Yes,
> there was plenty available in the restrooms this year, and 
> someone even
> put several rolls in the hiker box, but the Pirate was trying to sell
> the stuff at 25 cents a sheet. He told me this himself. The 
> truth is he
> left it out when he went cavorting around Pine Valley and the 
> wind came
> out and blew it all over the place. Litter, that what it's 
> called. It
> certainly couldn't have been me. I have an alibi. I was drinking
> lemonade over by the kitchen.
> 
> AsABat
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 10:32:41 -0400
> From: hiker97 at aol.com
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] 2008 Kickoff After Action Report
> To: AsABat at 4Jeffrey.Net, pct-l at backcountry.net
> Cc: lizmares at cox.net, YFuquay at catholiccharities.com,
> 	carolwbruno at yahoo.com,	John.Hannah at wgint.com, 
> reinholdmetzger at cox.net,	zoomersdelivers at yahoo.com, 
> laura629 at hotmail.comMessage-ID: <8CA7753D8FE6828-C98-
> A07 at webmail-nc06.sysops.aol.com>
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> 
> Gung Din AsABat writes: The truth is the Trail Pirate was trying 
> to SELL TOILET PAPER. Yes,there was plenty available in the 
> restrooms this year, and someone even put several rolls in the 
> hiker box, but the Pirate was trying to sell the stuff at 25 
> cents a sheet. He told me this himself. The truth is he left it 
> out when he went cavorting around Pine Valley and the wind came 
> out and blew it all over the place. Litter, that what it's 
> called. It certainly couldn't have been me. I have an alibi. I 
> was drinking lemonade over by the kitchen.
> --------------------------------------
> Switchback replies: Actually, I did tell him I was trying to 
> sell the TP by the sheet.? Just like you would do on the trail 
> if someone ran out.? Hummmm, well at least SOMEONE could at 
> least use a nice?scented peach or strawberry color type of TP.? 
> That would at least be a change from the white I see every year 
> all over the Pirate's Lair when my back is turned.
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 08:12:33 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Amanda L Silvestri <aslive at sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: [pct-l] AZDPCTKO
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Message-ID: <12357.31290.qm at web82203.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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> 
> What a wonderful event!  This was my second kick-off, 
> having missed it last year but attending in 2006.  As a 
> section hiker I ended up pitching my tent less than 20 yards 
> from where I did two years ago, over by the far corner of the 
> campground.  It was a nice spot but a good walk from 
> everything, nothing any self-respecting hiker should complain about.
>    
>   I enjoyed putting faces to several of the names I have 
> seen here and elsewhere and meeting new friends.  I did not 
> see Warner Springs Monty.  I wonder if you were there under 
> a different name.  Met Switchback and Stinky, but didn't 
> pet him (either of them) after warnings that pregnancy could 
> follow.  It was nice to have Yogi recognize my name at 
> registration.  I don't that was quite pleasant and disarming.
>    
>   The events were again very informative.  I want to 
> give a shout out to the rangers.  Their instructions on 
> making ones self large and loud and aggressive with bears has 
> worked very well for me.  I have not been to aggressive 
> with the bears.  I have yet to faint a charge at one, but I 
> do growl at them and make it clear that I am not pray.  
> They always seem a bit confused, allow me to take their pictures 
> and we depart with a mutual respect for one another.
>    
>   I have seen people post that they don't like the kick-off 
> because of the vendors.  I for one like to look at and 
> compare the equipment that you can only see on-line.  So 
> much of it is not available in stores.  I examined all the 
> tents and then walked around the camp sites asking folks how 
> they liked their tents, if they felt Strong, rain safe, were 
> roomy, etc.  Several people I spoke with had not spent much 
> time in their tents, but others were able to provide good feed-
> back and everyone was friendly.  The free alcohol stoves 
> give-a-way as always, was very nice.
>    
>   I provided several rides both to the lake from Scissors 
> Crossing and from the lake to Warner Springs.  I had planed 
> on bring three people down from L.A. but one Ed got sick.  
> I hope you feeling better Ed.  Ali got nervous when I said 
> that I would be leaving for Walker 
> Pass after the kick-off, but we met as I was doing my tent 
> comparison.  He seems like a nice guy, currently studying 
> at USC.  Anthony was supposed to be at L.A. International 
> Airport but after an hour of looking for him I decided her was 
> not there.  
>    
>   Bringing in Jellybean and Carbo from Scissors Crossing, 
> Jellybean asked what my trail name was.  I said "I don't 
> have one yet".  She said ,"Well how about Shepard?"  
> That was fine with me.  So, is that how trail name are 
> acquired?  Does one hiker just select the name of 
> another?  I am not sure.  Am I Shepard now?  :)
>    
>   I returned home yesterday to discover a bit of a 
> sunburn.  I hope the hikers out there are using good sun 
> protection.  Good luck to all of you on your through hikes, 
> section hikes, day hikes etc.  I look forward to meeting 
> several of you on the trail.
>    
>   Amanda (Shepard?)
>    
>    
>    
>    
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 09:01:22 -0700
> From: "Andrea Dinsmore" <zaqueltooocool at gmail.com>
> Subject: [pct-l] Border register........
> To: "pct back country" <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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> Anyone have a new count up date on how many started from the 
> border ??
> 
> PCT MOM
> 
> 
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> Message: 6
> Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 10:00:30 -0700
> From: Diane Soini of Santa Barbara Hikes 
> <diane at santabarbarahikes.com>Subject: Re: [pct-l] 
> Contaminated water question
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
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> I guess the question I'm trying to get answered is what does 
>> typical water filter filter? I have a Pur Hiker filter. Will 
> it  
> filter out contaminants from water sources marked as "may 
> be  
> contaminated" in the Data Book? And does the Data Book, when it 
> says  
> "contaminated" mainly mean chemical pollution or 
> biological  
> pollution? So far the only thing I'm hearing is chemical pollution.
> 
> Sorry I'm so concerned about water, but I'm a native of 
> chaparral  
> country and I already understand the importance of water. It's 
> just  
> where I normally go, the water is never "contaminated" (green 
> maybe,  
> or yellow, but not polluted as far as I know) and I already 
> know  
> where all of it is and even some places to look when it isn't 
> there.  
> I'm just a little worried about the PCT which is unfamiliar 
> territory  
> for me, and so if I'm left to filter water at Scissors crossing, 
> for  
> example, will my filter clean it up or should I take a pass?
> 
> Diane
> 
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